Wonder Woman vs Orion pure h/h

Started by Omega Vision3 pages

Originally posted by iceman24567
LOL lets see some solid proof of her being near Batman in skill non PIS please?

Personally I believe her to be more around Black Canary's level. I base this on Black Canary having a deep respect for her skills as if they're peers.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Personally I believe her to be more around Black Canary's level. I base this on Black Canary having a deep respect for her skills as if they're peers.
I see her being more Nightwing level than Canary. I honestly think Canary has dike like feelings for Wonder Woman so i would ignore any wanking she directs at her

Originally posted by iceman24567
I see her being more Nightwing level than Canary. I honestly think Canary has dike like feelings for Wonder Woman so i would ignore any wanking she directs at her

Canary/Wonder Woman droolio

Make it into a comic, DC Editorial. 😛

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Personally I believe her to be more around Black Canary's level. I base this on Black Canary having a deep respect for her skills as if they're peers.

Agreed. I don't consider her to be Batman level.

Originally posted by iceman24567
I see her being more Nightwing level than Canary.

Nightwing and Canary are pretty close IMO.

I honestly think Canary has dike like feelings for Wonder Woman so i would ignore any wanking she directs at her

I don't think she has a crush-crush on Diana but she does really look up to her.

As for who does want to jump her bones, just look at WW 600 🙂 Di could totally have her own harem going.

IMO, in skill, shes batman's equal or better.

Whether that is true or not is moot.

This is because she merely blocks/dodges and counters one of Orions attacks with pressure points or a simply combo. One doesn't need to be as skilled as Batman to do this.

I don't think she's particularly better than Bats. When they spar- during which she shows no sign of using speed or strength and both of them act as if she was human level during said sessions (I.e. Batman does holds that rely on strength) so I'll go with that- they both give each other tips and she doesn't walk all over him, it's fairly even.

When they fight for real, she handles him easily, but that's her using her powers.

Wonder Woman as skilled as Bats? Lol.

And no, her sparring with Batman while she possesses vast superhuman stats isn't evidence that she's as skilled.

I'd say Wonder Woman is low to mid B level in regards to skill.

Eh, but when she uses the stats, she does just walk all over him.

She might restrain herself, but no matter how much she restrains herself, she can't change the fact that she still superhuman. The distance between Diana and Bruce is ridiculously large in terms of stats. Restraining can't close that entire gap.

I'd assume when she's actively trying to put him down, and actually utilizing her abilities to a decent extent, she'd win without too much trouble.

Out of curiosity, when has Diana walked all over Batman? I think she defeated him without too much of a fuss in that JLA one shot with the Dragon, but I'm not too sure. I recall her defeating him once on a rooftop but that memory is really hazy.

Originally posted by Q99
Nightwing and Canary are pretty close IMO.

Yeah thats why i said she's in between them all three aren't as skilled as Batman though

In pure h2h? Orion has absolutely no chance whatsoever. Wonder Woman mops the floor with him.

Orion wins.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
She might restrain herself, but no matter how much she restrains herself, she can't change the fact that she still superhuman. The distance between Diana and Bruce is ridiculously large in terms of stats. Restraining can't close that entire gap.
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Yes, she is still superhuman, but the only stats of hers that she would not be able to restrain are her durability and endurance. She would be able to tone down her strength and speed if she chose to. That would not invalidate any sparring between the two of them unless we saw Batman tiring. You'd have to show something in their sparring sessions that shows her stats are helping her - ie her dodging something that no normal human would be able to.

I'm not saying she's as skilled as Batman but if she is restraining herself in their sparring sessions to work on her skills you have to take that at face value. You also have to take into consideration what the characters say about those sessions.

But as I said, I still give the edge to Orion. He's the only "brick" I would give the win against her in this kind of match up. He has the stats and the skill/experience needed to take the wins from her.

Orion.

Orion

Originally posted by victorymaker
In pure h2h? Orion has absolutely no chance whatsoever. Wonder Woman mops the floor with him.
Based on what ?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Wonder Woman as skilled as Bats? Lol.

And no, her sparring with Batman while she possesses vast superhuman stats isn't evidence that she's as skilled.

I'd say Wonder Woman is low to mid B level in regards to skill.

Remember this is comics. Everything doesn't have to make sense right?
The writer clearly wanted to show that WW and Bats were near the same level.

Writer's intentions are key.

With that said, I don't quite agree with the first things I just said, LOL. I just stated them for those who do.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Based on what ?

on her being more skilled and can counter his blows with pressure points and combos.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
She might restrain herself, but no matter how much she restrains herself, she can't change the fact that she still superhuman. The distance between Diana and Bruce is ridiculously large in terms of stats. Restraining can't close that entire gap.

I disagree, even if one is Superhuman restraint can make someone fight at human, or even less than human level. Stats don't matter if they aren't used.

If she's deciding the level of stats she'll use (and most top-tiers do have a lot of precision in that area, can catch an egg or crush a tank after all. They can normally even shift their perception between normal and super speed, the only stat that can't really be controlled is toughness), there's nothing stopping her from fighting at the same level as if she didn't have access to her powers.


Out of curiosity, when has Diana walked all over Batman? I think she defeated him without too much of a fuss in that JLA one shot with the Dragon, but I'm not too sure. I recall her defeating him once on a rooftop but that memory is really hazy.

Yes, the dragon one (JLA: League of One), and the rooftop was, if it's the same one I'm thinking of, Wonder Woman Hiketeia, where they clash multiple time and she kinda kicks him around while he tries to brain his way around her to deal with the problem.