Originally posted by namorsubbyA skrull trying to mimic an Iron Fist ain't the real deal. And Danny has rocked Ben with an Iron Fist back in the day.
Namor and Thing get KOed from one IF punch? Highly doubtful.In fact IIRC, Namor took a bunch of those from Superskrull when he copied Danny's power, then he preceeded to beat him up.
Originally posted by dmillsA skrul with Danny's exact ability is the same somehow?
A skrull trying to mimic an Iron Fist ain't the real deal. And Danny has rocked Ben with an Iron Fist back in the day.
They actually thought he was IF at first, because he had copied his powers and image. He didn't use thing's punch and johnny's flame to mimic it like he has been stated to be able to do.
Originally posted by namorsubby
What I'm saying is Super-skrull copied Danny's IF power and his appearance. He used the IF on Namor several times, and still got KTFO. Therefore the IF will not KTFO of Namor.
thats like saying the super skrulls claws based on wolverines are just as deadly and ability to damage the same objects.
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
thats completely wrong. You can't assume the Super-skrulls ability were on Danny's level, they were not even the same ability and this is a fact. They semi mimiced it on apearences only.thats like saying the super skrulls claws based on wolverines are just as deadly and ability to damage the same objects.
semi-mimicked? Why would I assume that when SS copies Danny's IF, it would have to be inferior, and not equal. He can perfectly mimic the F4's abilities, but not Danny's?
A situation with logan would be different. A skrull can't just bodily make real adamantium.
Originally posted by namorsubby
semi-mimicked? Why would I assume that when SS copies Danny's IF, it would have to be inferior, and not equal. He can perfectly mimic the F4's abilities, but not Danny's?A situation with logan would be different. A skrull can't just bodily make real adamantium.
yes becuases dany power derives from a very different sources.
nor can they magically make energy which comes from mystical city and dragon........
Okay well.....
The reason why I believe the IF would not KTFO of Namor, Thing or any other respectable Class 100 is due to the lack of the IF consistently showing me anything to believe it would.
Yes, lately Danny's Chi has been getting respect. Yes, there is the whole Hellcarrier thing and him taking out Luke, but those are a few, high-end showings for the IF.
Originally posted by namorsubby
Okay well.....The reason why I believe the IF would not KTFO of Namor, Thing or any other respectable Class 100 is due to the lack of the IF consistently showing me anything to believe it would.
Yes, lately Danny's Chi has been getting respect. Yes, there is the whole Hellcarrier thing and him taking out Luke
he taken out luke several times many of which well before his upgrades.
Originally posted by Dum Dum DuganI know that the hellcarrier feat is by far the most impressive for the IF, and not to be considered as a barometer for it's general formmidability.
you do realises there nothing inconsistent about it right? you do know he gotten stronger and can also increases as well as decreases the amount of energy he puts into his IF right? You seem to have very little knowledge on IF......he taken out luke several times many of which well before his upgrades.
Since when does taking out Cage justify taking out class 100 durability? I could never believe that IF could one-shot Namor or even Thing(non-jobbing)
Originally posted by namorsubby
I know that the hellcarrier feat is by far the most impressive for the IF, and not to be considered as a barometer for it's general formmidability.Since when does taking out Cage justify taking out class 100 durability? I could never believe that IF could one-shot Namor or even Thing(non-jobbing)
Never said it did you brought up him taking out Luke.
well what you believe and what certain character can do, are not the same thing.
He one shotted herc........
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
he also took out a train full of explosives with a single punch as well as a dragon ect. It not his only feat of similar magnitude.Never said it did you brought up him taking out Luke.
well what you believe and what certain character can do, are not the same thing.
He one shotted herc........
1. He's fought Namor before and his IF hasn't been displayed as nearly powerful enough to one-shot him
2. You can act as if the IF is at that level, but the fact of the matter is, despite a few high-end feats, the IF has never been consistently shown to have that type of power. He's not just walking around one-shot KOing any respectable class 100's routinely. His IF is not that powerful and has never been normally displayed as such.
Originally posted by namorsubby
Okay:1. He's fought Namor before and his IF hasn't been displayed as nearly powerful enough to one-shot him
2. You can act as if the IF is at that level, but the fact of the matter is, despite a few high-end feats, the IF has never been consistently shown to have that type of power. He's not just walking around KOing any respectable class 100's routinely. His IF is not that powerful.
again his attack power is based on the amount of energy he wishes to uses, so your whole consistency arguement is complete and utter garbage.
I know that Danny has been upgraded quite a bit since the mid 70's but how much better could he have gotten? He once punched the Hulk, and nearly broke his hand, Superman has better body armor than the Hulk, and when he braced for an asault from Iron Fist, I could see the same thing happening to him even with the upgrade. Gladiator would or should have similar effects from his punch.