Originally posted by Johnny SorrowDoes it matter?Reed and doom are both scientists and they are badass.HE just has a million more years of evolution ahead of them.
Which didn't do much. HE got the knockout blow when Thor wasn't paying attention.He still couldn't hit him once in that fight, regardless of how it started.
Point is, HE isn't a fighter by nature or training. He's a scientist. DS is a warrior born and bred.
Originally posted by Johnny Sorrow
Which didn't do much. HE got the knockout blow when Thor wasn't paying attention.He still couldn't hit him once in that fight, regardless of how it started.
Point is, HE isn't a fighter by nature or training. He's a scientist. DS is a warrior born and bred.
Which makes his encounters with Superman all the more out of character.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
DS isn't really a warrior at all. A fact he made quite clear when he was Prince Uxas. When he watched his brother Drax arm wrestling Izaya and a tavern wench asked him why he never "raises a hand toward beast or man" he replies that he's not a pacifist and that he appreciates war but not for the glory of battle or for the test of might. Rather for the logistical aspects, chiefly deception and strategy. The reason he seems to be pacifistic is that he's a hands off guy and "prefers to watch".Which makes his encounters with Superman all the more out of character.
While he prefers the evil mastermind role Ds can indeed fight quite well
Whenever its Darkseid vs someone else, it all comes down to wether or not his opponent can avoid being erased by the Omega Effect...
So, do you guys really believe HE to be an essential being to the universe? Last I looked,he was an evolutionary dead end...thus I do not believe he is essential.
As a result, this is not even a contest...HE gets erased.
PS...HP Doomsday not being erased by the Omega Effect was PIS IMHO btw...
Originally posted by Gecko4lif
While he prefers the evil mastermind role Ds can indeed fight quite well
Any time that DS fights someone in h/h (discounting times when its part of a greater scheme like when he threw his fight with Orion to poison the Source) when there's any alternative is OOC for the classical portrait of the character as the consumate schemer. In the fight where Superman managed to trick DS into hitting himself with his own OE (a major facepalm moment) Darkseid soon revealed that he could have easily bfred Superman at any time. Which begs the question: why doesn't Darkseid just bfr Superman to the other end of the Universe every time Big Blue appears and avoid a needless school yard scuffle?
Originally posted by Omega VisionWIS.Simple.
Him being Orion's superior in h/h is more a sign of superior strength than superior or comparable skill.Any time that DS fights someone in h/h (discounting times when its part of a greater scheme like when he threw his fight with Orion to poison the Source) when there's any alternative is OOC for the classical portrait of the character as the consumate schemer. In the fight where Superman managed to trick DS into hitting himself with his own OE (a major facepalm moment) Darkseid soon revealed that he could have easily bfred Superman at any time. Which begs the question: why doesn't Darkseid just bfr Superman to the other end of the Universe every time Big Blue appears and avoid a needless school yard scuffle?
Originally posted by TheLordofMurderHE is essential, dont be silly
Whenever its Darkseid vs someone else, it all comes down to wether or not his opponent can avoid being erased by the Omega Effect...So, do you guys really believe HE to be an essential being to the universe? Last I looked,he was an evolutionary dead end...thus I do not believe he is essential.
As a result, this is not even a contest...HE gets erased.
PS...HP Doomsday not being erased by the Omega Effect was PIS IMHO btw...
the pink/red guy is HE
Originally posted by Colossus-Big CNo.Like I said IIRC warlock is essential(I think)and hes not abstract.
so only abstracts can survive the the omega effect?
Originally posted by Colossus-Big CIf the universe needs you you are essential.Abstracts have said that earth is important to the universe due to all the heroes on it.
doomsday is essential? wonder woman also?
Like I might say reed is essential because if not for him abraxas would have destroyed the universe.
Originally posted by Black bolt z
Does it matter?Reed and doom are both scientists and they are badass.HE just has a million more years of evolution ahead of them.
Doom has trained himself in swordfighting and other areas.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
DS isn't really a warrior at all. A fact he made quite clear when he was Prince Uxas. When he watched his brother Drax arm wrestling Izaya and a tavern wench asked him why he never "raises a hand toward beast or man" he replies that he's not a pacifist and that he appreciates war but not for the glory of battle or for the test of might. Rather for the logistical aspects, chiefly deception and strategy. The reason he seems to be pacifistic is that he's a hands off guy and "prefers to watch".Which makes his encounters with Superman all the more out of character.
But DS still knows how to fight despite it being against character to intentionally engage in H2H combat.