STAR WARS vs. ANYTHING - Please Read! Participate!

Started by Lucius16 pages

Dude, Supes would pimpslap Yoda or Palpatine.

would he?

Yes, he would. This should be obvious to anyone that knows even a little bit about Superman.

Originally posted by Lucius
Yes, he would. This should be obvious to anyone that knows even a little bit about Superman.

I agree, and I'm a much bigger fan for Star Wars than Superman.

Originally posted by truejedi
this is probably a good point. Can you give me an example where it would screw us up, just to drive it home?

Can we do: Shaq vs. a Bear?

Silver-Age Supes could likely slap the force around. By going to damn fast.

I remember that they did a Supes vs Spidey crossover once and the fight was basically Supes stopping his fist an inch from Spideys face becuase if he'd have connected he would have liquidised him. The sheer wind pressure just from that still blew him through a couple of walls. Thats how a fight with Supes would go with any SW character.

Originally posted by Nephthys
I remember that they did a Supes vs Spidey crossover once and the fight was basically Supes stopping his fist an inch from Spideys face becuase if he'd have connected he would have liquidised him. The sheer wind pressure just from that still blew him through a couple of walls. Thats how a fight with Supes would go with any SW character.

would it now? Batman almost beat Superman, if I remember correctly. Sun came out at the wrong time or something and ruined it.

Plus its canon fact that any enemy of Superman can easily acquire kryptonite. (and in fact, almost ALWAYS will.)

superman got into a slug fest with a monster that was made out of kryptonite. superman won.

supes > any sw character

Originally posted by truejedi
this is probably a good point. Can you give me an example where it would screw us up, just to drive it home?
Pick a Batman, any Batman. SO many to choose from.

truejedi
would it now? Batman almost beat Superman, if I remember correctly. Sun came out at the wrong time or something and ruined it.

Batman beat Superman in TDKR... after slapping him around with a volley of x-ray-activated hunter missiles, shooting him with an explosive charge "that could sink a battleship," hitting him with sonics that blow out every window on the block, frying his brain with "every watt" of the city's power grid, squirting acid in his eyes - this is where Bruce observes that he's "finally gotten him angry" - gassing him with synthetic kryptonite, and punching him repeatedly with a suit powered by the city.

Oh, and Superman had just had his flesh ripped off by a nuclear bomb that also threw "hundreds of millions of tons of soot into the stratosphere" and blocked out the sun, cutting him off from his source of power. He gets something back by draining the stored energy of a jungle, but by the time he and Batman fight, the feedback from Bruce's suit tells him Superman isn't fighting at a hundredth of what he is. Even then, before the kryptonite gets put into play - delivered in an arrowhead by the greatest archer on the planet, by the way - Superman has Batman on the ground against a buckled lamppost with three broken ribs and a crushed wrist while he's just broken a sweat.

So yes, with dedicated preparation - culminating in his "best trick" - and the assistance of two third parties, Batman beat a Superman fighting at less than a hundredth of his full strength who didn't really want to hurt him.

Take from that what you will.

truejedi
I think we should include ALL batmen. We include information on Star Wars characters from all sources. We should do the same for selected opponents in this thread.

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Young Jedi, you must learn to read.

truejedi
this is probably a good point. Can you give me an example where it would screw us up, just to drive it home?

You have the comic continuity [canon] Batman, which is like the equivalent of a movie or EU character we might use here. You would be drawing on the information presented to you by several hundred different comics, which would be like the SW movies or novels or comics. Everything that is accepted as canon to the core DCU would be fair game.

Then you have, say, the Batman from Nolan's duology.. The only "canon" information here is what is presented to us in the movies [or accompanying novels], because it is a completely different and entirely separate take on the character. There are obviously overlaps in plot, character, and theme, but this movie series and the canon continuity exist independently of one another. One does not in any way affect the other, and as a result of Nolan's "realistic" interpretation of Batman, his character would get curbstomped by its canon DCU counterpart.

There are easily a dozen different interpretations of Batman that I can think of on the spot, from the four different movie characters to the multiple animated versions and all the different noncanon graphic novels. We are picking one to draw on, and I personally think the only one that would be a solid match for Mara Jade, neither fodder nor overkill, is the one in The Dark Knight Returns.

Edit: Also, lil bitz of education. Any three or four of those scans should convince you that Superman would rape any SW character at or in excess of the speed of light.

Supes might not beat Palps, but Yoda yes.

Palps would have no problem with just ripping him apart piec by frikkin piece with the force......

Yoda wouldnt do that.

Would a lightsaber hurt him?

This conversation has helped to determine that, yes, we need a specific version of a character!

how about Jango and Bobba v. Deadshot and the Punisher

one thing is for sure absolutely no star wars v. star trek threads they've already been done...

Originally posted by Pwned
Supes might not beat Palps, but Yoda yes.

Palps would have no problem with just ripping him apart piec by frikkin piece with the force......

Yoda wouldnt do that.

Would a lightsaber hurt him?

supes would no doubt smile after being hit by a lightsaber

Pwned a Lightsaber is super-hot plasma in a force containment tube. Basically its just really hot. Superman can fly into the Sun, withstand nuclear explosions and bathe in lava. A lightsaber won't do jack to him. And I laugh at the concept of Palpatine 'ripping him apart.' 🙄

I personally think the animated Batman is a good match-up. He's meta-human enough to take on Jedi-level opponents and has various gadgets to help him. Plus we probably actually know stuffs about him.

I'm not a comic book junkie (staying on top of comic books is probably the only thing more time consuming or demanding than staying on top of politics), but can Superman resist Force-based immobilization? What if Palpatine (or Luke or Yoda or anyone else sufficiently powerful) simply moves to hold Superman still with the Force?

I doubt they can hold something that can propell itself with enough force to move at lightspeeds.

Nephthys
I doubt they can hold something that can propell itself with enough force to move at lightspeeds.

I'll leave it to our resident physics experts (you know who you are).