Thor vs. Superman: The godblast challenge

Started by biensalsa4 pages

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Oh my bad. Fabric of the Universe. I mixed it up with what Skurge did. I was reading the Walt run while I typed that last post. Been a while since I read Thor #410 to #430. I'll make sure that doesn't happen again. Still don't see how it makes that much of a difference. Same comic "epic" dialogue to me. I still however can't double check. HC is bugging out on me.

I'm pretty certain that Thor stated he ripped open the fabric of the Universe -happy?- and said blast "burst" the barriers between the dimensions. Said energy went into the Sword, causing a backlash which captured the two. This caused the two to vanish through a warp. It's a bit unclear but as I understood it, the God Blast's energy, forcibly broke through the barriers between the dimensions, which transported the two. I.e, I don't think he simply warped space, creating a regular portal.

😐 You got me there. The Sea kept them in suspended animation. I guess I could try to pass it off as semantics but I honestly just remembered it wrong. : Don't think I was attempting to mislead you. I'd have posted scans.

That's why I practically never mention that scene. Not enough to be uber for Thor. I always rely on this example:

Thor in one shot put down the leader of the Dark Gods that had the power of Odin added to her own. Not equally as impressive as taking out Surtur/Ymir at the same time, but still on that level I'd say. It'll suffice.

Why did you nitpick and ignore the fact that a God Blast has shown to actually pack more energy than a Galaxy destroying attack? It was under the same writer and the two scenes happened less than 20 issues apart I believe.

Why does the fabric of infinity sound that much better? Same shit to me basically. Both are simply large and undefinable terms that try and give a sense of large scale in terms of power. Skurge was able to cleave the fabric of Infinity with his axe.

😆 Why the hell do I care what Brevoort thinks about Thor's capabilities? He didn't know Ares or Thor had any fights in the pas, he didn't think Thor could perform surgery or retained the knowledge of what he did as Blake. If I went to Alvaro's and asked the Thor fans to name instances of when Breevort was wrong in regards to Thor stuff, I'd probably get a sizable list.

His just an editor. His opinions are just that. Opinions. I never understood why so many people care what he thinks. It's one thing if his editing the scene in question.

Edit: So everybody can see the scene for themselves, I found it on my photobucket account:
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/FabricofUniverseRipped1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/FabricofUniverseRipped2.jpg

I'm pretty aware what the place of editors is in forums, However I believe their word has more weight to whatever you and me can say about comics. I do believe Thor can bust a planet, I will even go as far as to say that He can bust 4 planets the size of earth, but far from a Galaxy

The incident you mention of the Galaxy Buster is that the one with the null bomb?

Originally posted by Bentley
Editors want to distance themselves from the craziness that happens over DC, Mephisto can reality warp Earth but Thor has a hard time knocking a moon. Get a grip Editors.
It's quite the opposite, since Marvel is far more obsessed with cosmic feats than DC.

Stops at 1. Superman will be ****ed, maybe knocked out, but he's not dying.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
It does?Meh.

you open a thread and you dont know what you are writing about? anyway i dont see him pass superboy prime and specially not 1 million or cosmic armor they will just laugh his blast

Originally posted by Juntai
Stops at 1. Superman will be ****ed, maybe knocked out, but he's not dying.

lol

Originally posted by Juntai
Stops at 1. Superman will be ****ed, maybe knocked out, but he's not dying.
Its not a gauntlet.I'm asking what it does to all of them.
Originally posted by snazy
you open a thread and you dont know what you are writing about? anyway i dont see him pass superboy prime and specially not 1 million or cosmic armor they will just laugh his blast
No I just misunderstood what the belt of strength was being used for.

Originally posted by biensalsa
I'm pretty aware what the place of editors is in forums, However I believe their word has more weight to whatever you and me can say about comics. I do believe Thor can bust a planet, I will even go as far as to say that He can bust 4 planets the size of earth, but far from a Galaxy

The incident you mention of the Galaxy Buster is that the one with the null bomb?

Why would Brevoort's word have more wait? We aren't discussing a book he edited. We know his been wrong about Thor on more than one occasion. He seems to be a casual reader.

I guess on average his opinion is correct. Neither Thor or Surfer would destroy Earth.

I don't think Thor will be busting Galaxies or anything anytime soon. I do however think the God Blast is more powerful than a Galaxy busting attack. If the God Blast wasn't a concentrated attack, and was spread out in an omnidirectional fashion, logic dictates it has the energy necessary. The scenario simply wouldn't occur however.

Yes.

this thread is stupid, the godblast hasn't ever destroyed a galaxy and even if it did, superboy prime survived a universe destroying blast.... tut tut and the order of superman involved is even worse assuming they are supposed to be stronger, more durable versions as the list goes down?

Originally posted by Philosophía
Marvel is far more obsessed with cosmic feats than DC.

lol DC characters move Earth and Moon around more times than I move my car in a week

Bump

It's stops at 9, everybody else dies and KO the F out at best.

Originally posted by Juntai
Stops at 1. Superman will be ****ed, maybe knocked out, but he's not dying.

are you joking me.... he's been KO'd by a lot less than a godblast.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Why would Brevoort's word have more wait? We aren't discussing a book he edited. We know his been wrong about Thor on more than one occasion. He seems to be a casual reader.

I guess on average his opinion is correct. Neither Thor or Surfer would destroy Earth.

I don't think Thor will be busting Galaxies or anything anytime soon. I do however think the God Blast is more powerful than a Galaxy busting attack. If the God Blast wasn't a concentrated attack, and was spread out in an omnidirectional fashion, logic dictates it has the energy necessary. The scenario simply wouldn't occur however.

Yes.

If I remember correctly Thor ABSORBED enough energy to destroy a Galaxy with Mjolnir. It does not say that It can generate enough energy to destroy a galaxy, at least not in the hands of Thor. It could generate enough energy perhaps in the hands of Odin, but Odin does not need Mjolnir to bust a galaxy (according to a 30 year old feat or somewhere arround it).

Thor can ABSORB with Mjolrnir enough energy to bust a galaxy, but is far from creating enough energy to bust a galaxy.

IMO this will be like saying that Superman can bust HALF a Galaxy just because He absorbed ALL the energy from Mageddon.

well, mjolnir only shattered when thor channeled his life-force through it to break exitar's "brain case", and not from the absorbtion/redirecting feats mentioned *shrugs*


I don't think Thor will be busting Galaxies or anything anytime soon. I do however think the God Blast is more powerful than a Galaxy busting attack. If the God Blast wasn't a concentrated attack, and was spread out in an omnidirectional fashion, logic dictates it has the energy necessary. The scenario simply wouldn't occur however.

Yes.

Do me a favor? Go to google and do a size/mass comparison of the following :

moon
Earth
Sun
Antares/Betelgeuse (Super Red Giant Stars)
Solar System
Light Year
Galaxy

Now after viewing those stats if you can come back here and tell me one of Thor's Godblasts can wreck a galaxy, I'm gonna give up my faith in humanity (that or point and laugh at Marvel's stupidity).

Originally posted by psycho gundam
well, mjolnir only shattered when thor channeled his life-force through it to break exitar's "brain case", and not from the absorbtion/redirecting feats mentioned *shrugs*

Hm... Interesting point.

However the energy redirected in the Null bomb incident seems to destroy galaxies by domino effect and not by a clean flat out explosion

After all, the energy was enough to re-start a dying sun, which is a lot, but like the other guy stated far from a clean galaxy busting explosion like Odin did vs Infinity? I don't remember.

Also would like to point out. The incident in which Mjolnir breaks it was because it was packing ALL of the asgardians energies. At least that is what it says at the beginning of the feat.

LOL. The Godblast definitely packs enough punch to destroy a galaxy. But it never will because it's not designed to destroy galaxies. It's a highly concentrated beam, not an omnidirectional explosion.

LOL. Monarch's "universe-destroying blast" didn't even destroy the planet he was on. All life in that universe was destroyed and that's pretty much covers it.

Originally posted by biensalsa
However the energy redirected in the Null bomb incident seems to destroy galaxies by domino effect and not by a clean flat out explosion

After all, the energy was enough to re-start a dying sun, which is a lot, but like the other guy stated far from a clean galaxy busting explosion like Odin did vs Infinity? I don't remember.

And clearly you never thought to apply this rationale to the Mageddon feat. Right. Not questionable at all.

GB

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
are you joking me.... he's been KO'd by a lot less than a godblast.

say a captian marvel sucker punch.

sucker punch or not captian marvels most powerful sucker punch is a grain of sand in comparison to a god blast.