Mario vs Dante

Originally posted by BloodRain
As a gag feat... while breaking the 4th wall. Two things we don't use. If a character 'turns the page' is that an official power?

That has nothing to do with anything. As Neph said Nami can hurt Luffy.. thats impossible unless its a gag feat, just like mopping a castle away.

'Me and the others use sight, simplicity and reason.' Either way theres no logic here, you admitted to only go by what you see so anyhow..

''He did it by breaking the 4th wall therefor he can do it all the time.'' Answer this; Can Mario reach the top of the castle with a mop? If so what does that say about the scene? We already know theres no sound reason for these castle beating clips and are gag/4th wall breaks which we dont use.

I don't personally see why not.

But an explanation makes a gag feat not a gag feat?

How does that disprove my claim? I don't understand what you think you're saying! XD

Not normally, no. He bypassed the artistic restriction of the castle's height. That's what makes the scene funny. The thing you guys are just not getting is that this is what rule 14 was created for. Things like this count now.

Because that would make the physically weak Nami one of the strongest in her verse >_> we don't use gag feats. Nor 4th wall breaks due to having nothing to do with the characters in-verse abilities.

You have an explanation?

Yeah I got no clue what you meant so I trailed off into another point about the lack of logic and pure 'sure, why not' acceptance.

and that the character is clearly intended to be able to do.

Rule 14.

Concession kindly accepted.

Strength's finally over, so he's got nothing to put down Dante even if he could manage to tag him. /thread

That's not a concession, fool. We've come to the same style of bullshit present in every other thread you claim to win. You failing to recognize something that defeats you because, and only because, it defeats you under thin guise of "reasoning."

You've won nothing. Now go hug something.

Stop rambling, could use that time coming up with a decent answer instead of whining about me not agreeing with your posts. If you can't contribute, gtfo. 😬

Dude, you've spent the last two pages arguing for Toonforce. The only difference being you're slightly more reasonable in your definition of it and you didn't actually call it toonforce. Rule 14 was specifically created to eliminate the arguments against feats like that for this forum.

Deal with Rule 14. Or GTFO.

Kinda forgot about that toonforce splarg, 4th wall breaking is something that was never discussed before iirc. ''So my own definition of "toonforce" is a humorous power, ability, or feat that is really not meant to be taken seriously and is just there for laughs.'' That Aura, Scream and GK agree to. Also ''...and was clearly used as a storytelling device for the purposes of entertainment.'' This feat would fall under this... probably, the 4th wall thing shakes it up a bit.

Rule 14
...and that the character is clearly intended to be able to do.

Jeez, Mario games have like, no cutscenes at all.

Some minor strength feats.

Must be a mission trying through all those clips.. 2nd and 4th are superior but imo beneath the chain chomp. Reckon you'll stumble across something on the Savior's level?

I like how rule 14 is still hidden behind as if it allows gag feats and random nonsense or as if it outright states realistic physics are used in all fictions. Mario clearly does not obey many if any rules. Most objects may or may not have any weight at all regardless of their size or material.

Originally posted by BloodRain
Must be a mission trying through all those clips.. 2nd and 4th are superior but imo beneath the chain chomp. Reckon you'll stumble across something on the Savior's level?

Doubtful. Only thing I can think of is this guy and well...

Not going to have much time after today, though, so I can't do much more.

I like how rule 14 is still hidden behind as if it allows gag feats and random nonsense or as if it outright states realistic physics are used in all fictions. Mario clearly does not obey many if any rules. Most objects may or may not have any weight at all regardless of their size or material.

I like how when the rule established toonforce the terminology switched to stuff like "gag feats" as if they weren't the same exact thing.

Originally posted by BloodRain
Kinda forgot about that toonforce splarg, 4th wall breaking is something that was never discussed before iirc. ''So my own definition of "toonforce" is a humorous power, ability, or feat that is really not meant to be taken seriously and is just there for laughs.'' That Aura, Scream and GK agree to. Also ''...and was clearly used as a storytelling device for the purposes of entertainment.'' This feat would fall under this... probably, the 4th wall thing shakes it up a bit.

He is not, thus cannot. If he was there'd be some consistency to it in the game -inside- the 4th wall.

Prove it. Prove he was not intended to do it. It was clear that Mario had to destroy each castle. And he did, only with varying methods.

@Scenario: Checked most of the bosses and none come close in size that he reacts too, that and the lack of cutscenes says there probably wont be one. Also found out that his speed might range from 100 m/s to Mach 2.4 though haven't found any proof for it. Makes a nice plausibility in any case.

As said its a one-time humorous storytelling device that isn't consistent and doesn't stand up with his real feats. This is like the Nami hurting Luffy example Neph gave.

@Moo: He used a normal mop to wipe away a castle in three strokes. [And don't try saying it was a special mop because we both know thats not the case.] Obviously there is no way that Mario could do that under normal circumstances unless for some humorous storytelling device that breaks the 4th wall. Can't even be validated as we'd have to go by how Mario himself in the gag feat reacts to the castle aka as if it were 10 ft tall.

Prove it. I'd say a mop that wiped away a castle is pretty damn special.

Not that it matters. ****ing. Rule. 14.

How big is the castle? because if its the same video I am looking at the castle looks not much bigger/smaller than mario himself. Whats even being discussed between you two?

Also it may not be the mop thats special, it could be the castle......

Big enough to contain an entire level.

Game mechanics has Mario as a lightning timer, lol. It's possible to superguard against Grodus and Shadow Queen's lightning attacks.

Got nothing right now; I'll be back in a week or so.

Who says size has anything to do with what can fit inside it. Its a fictional universe, considering a mop also just wiped the castle away its likely the castle is somehow special. Its 10 ft tall yet has a pocket dimension, yet can be wiped away by a mop....

Typical mario...

You planning on contributing or are you just going say things BT?