Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
haermm Wow, what a tough guy you are. I have respect for the law, that's all. When you resist, you make it hard for cops to do their job. What if I came to your job and did the same?As I said, if they are protesting legally, it's all good. If not, then they have to do what the cop says. Stupid ***** brings her baby to a protest? L-O-L, she's a dumbass. Who's more at fault? The cop, or the woman, for putting her baby in danger?
Let's say you and I are protesting legally, side by side, and you see me do something that crosses the line, that is gonna make a cop come over and order me to stop doing. You gonna lol and say go boy, or you gonna say Hey RJ, you might wanna stop doing that?
As do I, but blatant police abuse is just that. Being a cop means using the needed amount of force for a given situation. You're a rather large man, you resisting would obviouly require a different approach than a infant strapped mother sitting on the floor. Did what at my job?
They're obviously poor people and where homeless at the moment, daycare probably wasn't an option for that mother and many others. Either way, this is no grounds for the police to do the dragging of the infant we see.
In the baby being knocked onto concrete and then dragged away? The cops were 100% at fault for that, they were arresting her, they should have handled it differently considering she had an infant on her. Simple as that; it's their job to insure the safely of those they're arresting, that is part of the job.
There were many officers there, it's not like she was over-powering them. One option would have been to restrain her, remove the child and then take them both away without harm.
Originally posted by Robtard
As do I, but blatant police abuse is just that. Being a cop means using the needed amount of force for a given situation. You're a rather large man, you resisting would obviouly require a different approach than a infant strapped mother sitting on the floor. Did what at my job?They're obviously poor people and where homeless at the moment, daycare probably wasn't an option for that mother and many others. Either way, this is no grounds for the police to do the dragging of the infant we see.
In the baby being knocked onto concrete and then dragged away? The cops were 100% at fault for that, they were arresting her, they should have handled it differently considering she had an infant on her. Simple as that; it's their job to insure the safely of those they're arresting, that is part of the job.
There were many officers there, it's not like she was over-powering them. One option would have been to restrain her, remove the child and then take them both away without harm.
If I walked in on your job and acted in such a manner that you found your job difficult/impossible to do, would that be fair to you, that's what I am asking. Because when someone behaves in a fashion (i.e. ghetto ***** trying to stop a cop from ticketing her friend, i.e. a protester protesting illegally, breaking the law, and refusing to cooperate with cops as they intervene) that a cop finds it difficult to do their job properly, then **** 'em.
She shouldn't have been protesting illegally (I am assuming she was)
She should have copperated with the cops when they intervened.
She should have her baby taken away for taking it to a protest. What a dumbass, putting her child in harm's way.
The cops might have been a bit rough, but SHE is 100% at fault for having her baby there.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
If I walked in on your job and acted in such a manner that you found your job difficult/impossible to do, would that be fair to you, that's what I am asking. Because when someone behaves in a fashion (i.e. ghetto ***** trying to stop a cop from ticketing her friend, i.e. a protester protesting illegally, breaking the law, and refusing to cooperate with cops as they intervene) that a cop finds it difficult to do their job properly, then **** 'em.She shouldn't have been protesting illegally (I am assuming she was)
She should have copperated with the cops when they intervened.
She should have her baby taken away for taking it to a protest. What a dumbass, putting her child in harm's way.
The cops might have been a bit rough, but SHE is 100% at fault for having her baby there.
You can say "she should have" to this and that till you're blue in the face and you might very well be correct in some or all counts; still doesn't mean the cops weren't at fault in approaching the situation in a totally ****ed up manner, considering an infant was involved.
Let's just say the mother a ****ing retard unfit to be a mother, k. Cops still dragged her away and her baby; put the baby in a [more] dangerous situation, when their job would have been to protect the infant, first and foremost. Here's a novel concept, remove the child BEFORE they dragged her. Another, handcuffed; legged cuffed her and carried her and the infant away. I can go on in approaches that would have worked and not been brutal.
Pretty sure you'd agree that protecting and not harming a infant comes before breaking up a squatting protest and shutting up some jabbering Africans.
A "bit rough", the hell is wrong with you? They dragged a ****ing infant.
Originally posted by Robtard
You can say "she should have" to this and that till you're blue in the face and you might very well be correct in some or all counts; still doesn't mean the cops weren't at fault in approaching the situation in a totally ****ed up manner, considering an infant was involved.Let's just say the mother a ****ing retard unfit to be a mother, k. Cops still dragged her away and her baby; put the baby in a [more] dangerous situation, when their job would have been to protect the infant, first and foremost. Here's a novel concept, remove the child BEFORE they dragged her. Another, handcuffed; legged cuffed her and carried her and the infant away. I can go on in approaches that would have worked and not been brutal.
Pretty sure you'd agree that protecting and not harming a infant comes before breaking up a squatting protest and shutting up some jabbering Africans.
A "bit rough", the hell is wrong with you? They dragged a ****ing infant.
No. I just watched the vid again. She was on her back, acting a fool, and was moved about a foot. No one was "dragged", the baby wasn't "dragged."
The cops were trying to lift her up, dude. What was she doing on her back with a BABY on her back?
This is bullshit. I watched both vids carefully. The cops were legally trying to evict them. By not leaving, the immigrants were breaking the law. The cops tried to escort them away, but they sat down, locked arms, and were all "WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH' and jabbering away in Swahili. I watched the cops seperate babies from their mothers, I watched as some of the mothers sat down and refused to cooperate, placing their babies in the line of fire.
The cops did nothing wrong here. The immigrants are just a buncha backwoods dumbasses who don't know how to take care of their kids.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
No. I just watched the vid again. She was on her back, acting a fool, and was moved about a foot. No one was "dragged", the baby wasn't "dragged."The cops were trying to lift her up, dude. What was she doing on her back with a BABY on her back?
You're the ultimate police excuse man. Starting from 00:21, mother and baby are dragged. It's clearly in the video.
Originally posted by Robtard
You're the ultimate police excuse man. Starting from 00:21, mother and baby are dragged. It's clearly in the video.
No. The dumb ***** refused to move, they grabbed her ankles and pulled her MAYBE a foot. She knew the baby was on her back, yet she STILL persisted in acting a fool, KNOWING what was coming. SHE placed her baby in danger, NOT the police. The police went out of their way trying to remove them without being abusive.
There is ZERO police brutality there.
The immigrants are all idiots.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
This is bullshit. I watched both vids carefully. The cops were legally trying to evict them. By not leaving, the immigrants were breaking the law. The cops tried to escort them away, but they sat down, locked arms, and were all "WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH' and jabbering away in Swahili. I watched the cops seperate babies from their mothers, I watched as some of the mothers sat down and refused to cooperate, placing their babies in the line of fire.The cops did nothing wrong here. The immigrants are just a buncha backwoods dumbasses who don't know how to take care of their kids.
Lazy and inept, eh? Look again. The vids are chocked full of cops being gentle with the immigrants (who were in fact trespassing, therefore criminals, NOT protesters). They took the babies away from most of the women and tried lifting them as they women sat on their fat asses and made the cops carry them. Every one of them should have been arrested.
The lady with the baby who was "dragged?" Gimmee a break, the baby was not "dragged", the cops grabbed the lady and pulled her away, and, when seeing that the baby was under her, they stopped.
Again:
SHE placed her baby in danger, NOT the police. The police went out of their way trying to remove them without being abusive.
The cops were trying to lift her up, dude. What was she doing on her back with a BABY on her back?
There is ZERO police brutality there.
And:
This is bullshit. I watched both vids carefully. The cops were legally trying to evict them. By not leaving, the immigrants were breaking the law. The cops tried to escort them away, but they sat down, locked arms, and were all "WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH' and jabbering away in Swahili. I watched the cops seperate babies from their mothers, I watched as some of the mothers sat down and refused to cooperate, placing their babies in the line of fire.
You guys can scream "Police brutality" all day, but there is literally ZERO evidence of it in the vids, FACT.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
No. The dumb ***** refused to move, they grabbed her ankles and pulled her MAYBE a foot. She knew the baby was on her back, yet she STILL persisted in acting a fool, KNOWING what was coming. SHE placed her baby in danger, NOT the police. The police went out of their way trying to remove them without being abusive.There is ZERO police brutality there.
Again, you can blame her all you like for being a moron; you might be right. Still doesn't mean the police acted properly considering the giving situation.
You're essentially excusing the police on the grounds that the mother is a moron. Guess what, it's not the infant's fault his/her mother is a moron and the police have an obligation to protect the child first and the mother they're arresting.
On your same reasoning, if a mother holding a infant tried to punch an officer, you'd excuse the police in tazing her, spraying mace or swinging a baton at her. Never mind that those three actions would put the infant greatly in harms way.
You're the ultimate police excuse man, you clearly see her being dragged and the baby tagging along for the drag.
Originally posted by RobtardNah, not dragged. The lady with the baby who was "dragged?" Gimmee a break, the baby was not "dragged", the cops grabbed the lady and pulled her away, and, when seeing that the baby was under her, they stopped.
Again, you can blame her all you like for being a moron; you might be right. Still doesn't mean the police acted properly considering the giving situation.You're essentially excusing the police on the grounds that the mother is a moron. Guess what, it's not the infant's fault his/her mother is a moron and the police have an obligation to protect the child first and the mother they're arresting.
On your same reasoning, if a mother holding a infant tried to punch an officer, you'd excuse the police in tazing her, spraying mace or swinging a baton at her. Never mind that those three actions would put the infant greatly in harms way.
You're the ultimate police excuse man, you clearly see her being dragged and the baby tagging along for the drag.
It's right there in the vid, stop ignoring it and accept it.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Lazy and inept, eh? Look again. The vids are chocked full of cops being gentle with the immigrants (who were in fact trespassing, therefore criminals, NOT protesters). They took the babies away from most of the women and tried lifting them as they women sat on their fat asses and made the cops carry them. Every one of them should have been arrested.The lady with the baby who was "dragged?" Gimmee a break, the baby was not "dragged", the cops grabbed the lady and pulled her away, and, when seeing that the baby was under her, they stopped.
Again:
SHE placed her baby in danger, NOT the police. The police went out of their way trying to remove them without being abusive.
The cops were trying to lift her up, dude. What was she doing on her back with a BABY on her back?
There is ZERO police brutality there.
And:
This is bullshit. I watched both vids carefully. The cops were legally trying to evict them. By not leaving, the immigrants were breaking the law. The cops tried to escort them away, but they sat down, locked arms, and were all "WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH' and jabbering away in Swahili. I watched the cops seperate babies from their mothers, I watched as some of the mothers sat down and refused to cooperate, placing their babies in the line of fire.
You guys can scream "Police brutality" all day, but there is literally ZERO evidence of it in the vids, FACT.
Your argument seems to be that because the parents of these children are bad, it is therefor ok for the officers to start dragging them around while they have babies strapped to their back. As if their bad parenting negates the obvious bad police work here.
They sat down and locked arms? Damn them, how dare they sit down. What a vile group, sitting down and all.
Originally posted by BackFireNo. You totally missed my point.
Your argument seems to be that because the parents of these children are bad, it is therefor ok for the officers to start dragging them around while they have babies strapped to their back. As if their bad parenting negates the obvious bad police work here.They sat down and locked arms? Damn them, how dare they sit down. What a vile group, sitting down and all.