Originally posted by Lord_Talron
it could be argued that lobo could too, but i think nefaria is above him so im curious at how lobo wins
Beats him down.
Nefarias damage soak is pretty high, but Lobos is insane. At the least, Thors punches were hurting Nefaria, and a building falling on top of him staggered him. Contrast with Lobo literally laughing off Guy Gardner dropping a skyscraper on him, and generally shrugging off attacks from Mon El, Superman (Most impressive was Supes amped up on Kryptonite X knocking Lobo into orbit and through an alien ship, with Bo having an entire coherant thought during the trip up) Captain Marvel, various Green Lanterns, and even Despero. The bulk of his appearances portray him as literally immune to pain, up to having his limbs ripped off or most of his body destroyed..
Now, I'm not saying he'll go through Nefaria like nothing, I'm just trying to argue given Lobo's history and given what's affected Nefaria in the past, the main man has what it takes to give the Count the fight of his life..
Edit: And as for 'Bo's strength, it's nowhere near as insane as his damage soak, but it should hurt Nefaria. In a Legion story, he kicked Superman into orbit, then leaped after him, and he's generally matched or exeeded characters on Supermans level, with comments on how strong he is..
Originally posted by cdtm
Beats him down.Nefarias damage soak is pretty high, but Lobos is insane. At the least, Thors punches were hurting Nefaria, and a building falling on top of him staggered him. Contrast with Lobo literally laughing off Guy Gardner dropping a skyscraper on him, and generally shrugging off attacks from Mon El, Superman (Most impressive was Supes amped up on Kryptonite X knocking Lobo into orbit and through an alien ship, with Bo having an entire coherant thought during the trip up) Captain Marvel, various Green Lanterns, and even Despero. The bulk of his appearances portray him as literally immune to pain, up to having his limbs ripped off or most of his body destroyed..
Now, I'm not saying he'll go through Nefaria like nothing, I'm just trying to argue given Lobo's history and given what's affected Nefaria in the past, the main man has what it takes to give the Count the fight of his life..
Edit: And as for 'Bo's strength, it's nowhere near as insane as his damage soak, but it should hurt Nefaria. In a Legion story, he kicked Superman into orbit, then leaped after him, and he's generally matched or exeeded characters on Supermans level, with comments on how strong he is..
Originally posted by Stoic
However Lobo was oneshotted by an eclipsed Superman, who later had a hard time with Captain Marvel.
True, and that's a popular example against him.
But it also goes against his history of tanking much, much greater amounts of damage then the Eclipsed Superman unleashed (Four hard punches knocked him out, and one major punch did the same? 'Bo's laughed off attacks from Despero and tanked a lot worse in his history..)
Not to mention, heat vision made him scream, despite having zero effect when Superman, made bloodlusted by Eradicators influence, used it on him in their "former" first encounter.
Originally posted by Prep-Man
Wasn't Eclipsed Superman powered by Eclipso artifact?
An artifact is how Eclipso converted characters, and there's some evidence normal humans got a power boost, but not much evidence overpowered characters like Superman got a similar boost (Kind of like how Beta Ray Bill was already nearly on Thors level physically without the hammer, and being transformed didn't amp him much beyond that..)
And his magic weakness still existed, going by the more recent Eclipsed Superman vs Captain Marvel, round 2, so it didn't amp his resistances at the least..
Originally posted by cdtm
Beats him down.Edit: And as for 'Bo's strength, it's nowhere near as insane as his damage soak, but it should hurt Nefaria. In a Legion story, he kicked Superman into orbit, then leaped after him, and he's generally matched or exeeded characters on Supermans level, with comments on how strong he is..
Prep Man-Wasn't Eclipsed Superman powered by Eclipso artifact?
cdtm-An artifact is how Eclipso converted characters, and there's some evidence normal humans got a power boost, but not much evidence overpowered characters like Superman got a similar boost (Kind of like how Beta Ray Bill was already nearly on Thors level physically without the hammer, and being transformed didn't amp him much beyond that..)And his magic weakness still existed, going by the more recent Eclipsed Superman vs Captain Marvel, round 2, so it didn't amp his resistances at the least..
So that statment is crap.
I would think that Eclipso would boost his powers because he
A. Would probably have to seeing as how Supes gets his powers from the Sun,and Eclipso would be driven out by it and would thus have to do something to keep supes from powering down over time.
B.Eclipso is a evil bastard and wouldn't fight fair.
And out of the JLA,and L.E.G.I.O.N taking on Supes. LOBO was the ONLY one that could put up any kind of a fight in that whole battle.
So I think The Main Man could take Neffy out given time.