Akuma vs Tekkenverse

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Akuma vs Tekkenverse

there's two scenarios.

scenario 1: normal Akuma fights them all

scenario 2: this time it's Shin Akuma going up against them all.

by all fighters I'm including Devil, Ogre and all of those other guys like Jinpachi (whom I hate with a passion).

Is it a gauntlet match or is the Tekken cast dogpiling him? If it's the latter then Tekken for sure in both the scenarios. If not, then I'm not sure. Some of the god-tiers from Tekken might take him out.

Akuma stomps all scenarios. Akuma in SF 4 created a giant forest size crator simply by powering up. Udon he destroyed a meteor.

Originally posted by Phanteros
Akuma stomps all scenarios. Akuma in SF 4 created a giant forest size crator simply by powering up. Udon he destroyed a meteor.

the meteor feat was non-canon

Against them all at the same time?

1. Akuma loses. The top-tiers True Ogre, Devil Kazuya, Devil Jin, Azazel, and Jinpachi will take him out if they all work together.

2. Shin Akuma wins.

akuma gets pwnedwtf

Originally posted by Phanteros
Akuma stomps all scenarios. Akuma in SF 4 created a giant forest size crator simply by powering up. Udon he destroyed a meteor.

Yeah and Jinpachi can destroy the world. Azazel can be beaten only by devil gene users, that's mean akuma will get wtfpwned by him.
Srsly, akuma is way overrated, Devil jin annhilated a giant forest like Akuma, that's alone give him a run for his money. Don't underestimate tekken characters.

Gouki could beat any Tekken character with a single punch, and he would eradicate the majority of the cast with his move at the end of SFIV.

If Jinpachi and/or Azazel can destroy the world, then Shin Akuma omfgwtfloses.

Uhuh... Yeah.... World killing power...

Oh wait! that never happened... Nor can it ever be demonstrated that they can... yeah, Akuma can myst them all with single blows because they havn't come anywhere close to demonstrating that kind of power or any measurable defence against it.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Gouki could beat any Tekken character with a single punch, and he would eradicate the majority of the cast with his move at the end of SFIV.
That's of course fanboyism, and what move?

Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon
If Jinpachi and/or Azazel can destroy the world, then Shin Akuma omfgwtfloses.
Not really. Destroying the world can be vague. It's specific abilities that are needed.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Uhuh... Yeah.... World killing power...

Oh wait! that never happened... Nor can it ever be demonstrated that they can... yeah, Akuma can myst them all with single blows because they havn't come anywhere close to demonstrating that kind of power or any measurable defence against it.

No on in tekkenverse is going to stand there waiting for Akuma to charge his fist up, remain still and watch as Akuma nails them with it. His so called single blow is his ultimate physical, btw.

Heihachi could probably take it. The Jack in one of the earlier tekkens could take it. Put up a barrier that withstood a satellite ray that incinerated an area on the planet/continent. Then there's the fact these are machines replicated in the tekken verse, though I guess it's fair to only use one. Akuma's punch is surely to fail, that is if everyone in tekkenverse decides to do nothing. So much for having no defense.

Devil kazuya's ending in tekken 4 hints he took out the area containing the zaibatsu, which for all anyone knows, is as big or bigger than the island, and this is canon T2 Kazuya power.

The person in question soloing without breaks in between, like many other ridiculous notions, is a fanboy's dream.

Originally posted by iil truick
[B]That's of course fanboyism, and what move?

Not really. Destroying the world can be vague. It's specific abilities that are needed.

lool :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-wNF5ewguw

at 2:03
" if he fully awakened, Humankind will be exterminated."
and :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8_px-qg0rY

Azazel can turn the world we know into Ashes, i'm pretty sure Azazel takes it alone 😆

Devil kazuya's ending in tekken 4 hints he took out the area containing the zaibatsu, which for all anyone knows, is as big or bigger than the island, and this is canon T2 Kazuya power.

Agree but he's not as powerful as devil jin who can be compared to dbz :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxzoVshVf_8

conclusion : Akuma gets royally raped in the ass

Wait...how is Devil Jin comparable to DBZ? Because he grunted and some rocks lifted from the ground? Yamcha would rape Devil Jin.

Originally posted by crimson_2010
lool :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-wNF5ewguw

at 2:03
" if he fully awakened, Humankind will be exterminated."
and :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8_px-qg0rY

Azazel can turn the world we know into Ashes, i'm pretty sure Azazel takes it alone 😆

Agree but he's not as powerful as devil jin who can be compared to dbz :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxzoVshVf_8

conclusion : Akuma gets royally raped in the ass


You quoted it yourself: " if he fully awakened, Humankind will be exterminated." But he isn't fully awakened, so it really doesn't apply here does it?

Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon
If Jinpachi and/or Azazel can destroy the world, then Shin Akuma omfgwtfloses.
A lot of characters could "destroy the world" given an infinite amount of time. 🙂

Originally posted by addy31
well they pretty much can.....but like i said before

let Heihachi has his way with akuma first 😉

Only Heihachi would be turned into paste the moment Gouki's fist collides with Heihachi. That pitiful explosion from the Jacks took him out of commission for weeks.

Originally posted by addy32
uhu....yeah so what do you want namco to do... show that azazel was able to pawn jin/kazuya and destroyed the world...

guess what... some fighters are actually worth the a$$ kissing they get... unlike akuma...who can only defeats weaklings like ryu... and be worshipped by God by you guys.... tekken's protagonists and antagonists are able to do their job in the storyline...

p.s and please dont start crying... "i dont worship akuma eeennhhnahhnahhnahh!" cuz u do.... period

1. Only vague hyperbole statements are not feats nor do they hold much weight in a debate.

2. Gouki has yet to be defeated by anyone in the SF roster, except for Gouken, when Goui was young. Ryu and whoever else is on the protagonist's sides always accomplish their goal, defeating M. Bison, Gill, Seth, etc. So please stop talking out of your ass.

3. You're pretty quick on the bawwwing, no one has even assraped you yet.

Originally posted by addy32
and by the way.. have you taken devil jin into account... who was able to destroy a moving bike into pieces and fight thru hoards of tekken force... and i know now your gonna cry about it being PIS...what do u want dumba$$??? at every level... SF characters fail against namco and snk fighters.... you keep jumping the topic from PIS to canon/non-canon to gameplay tactic and whatnot shit... sad....
HOLY****INGSHITAMOVINGBIKE!? Are you under the impression bikes are more difficult to destroy than submarines, mountains, and islands? PIS? Why would anyone claim it is PIS when those feats are pathetic garbage compared to what Gouki has done? No one has even mentioned PIS or anything you mentioned, are you mentally unwell?

He's a butthurt troll with some very serious mental issues, and has a thing for me which has been chronicles time and again in the Ryu vs Kyo thread. And he's spreading like cancer... I dunno I think he's a wannabe internet gangsta stalker.

Just ignore the fool, I've been told to by Storm.

Originally posted by iil truick
That's of course fanboyism, and what move?

Not really. Destroying the world can be vague. It's specific abilities that are needed.

No on in tekkenverse is going to stand there waiting for Akuma to charge his fist up, remain still and watch as Akuma nails them with it. His so called single blow is his ultimate physical, btw.

Heihachi could probably take it. The Jack in one of the earlier tekkens could take it. Put up a barrier that withstood a satellite ray that incinerated an area on the planet/continent. Then there's the fact these are machines replicated in the tekken verse, though I guess it's fair to only use one. Akuma's punch is surely to fail, that is if everyone in tekkenverse decides to do nothing. So much for having no defense.

Devil kazuya's ending in tekken 4 hints he took out the area containing the zaibatsu, which for all anyone knows, is as big or bigger than the island, and this is canon T2 Kazuya power.

The person in question soloing without breaks in between, like many other ridiculous notions, is a fanboy's dream.

1. Because I am sure you can show me any Tekken character having remotely near island durability right? The move in Gouki's ending in Super Street Fighter IV, destroyed an area of forest (An area making Devil Jin's look puny), but most of the attack is projected upwards, the attack can not only be seen from space, but actually left the atmosphere.

2. This I actually agree with. It is never mentioned how Jinpachi or whoever would "destroy the world," so the statement should be taken with a grain of salt.

3. You mean the Kongou Koku Retsu Zan? The move he did not create until SF3? Is Gouki a time traveler now? He used no special move to destroy the island.

4. Heihachi was KOed for weaks by a much weaker blast. 😐 As for Jack, prove the sattelite ray could destroy an island, though I do not remember this particular event.

5. Only you cannot prove exactly how long it took him to "take out" the Zaibatsu.

6. Only most of the cast would be fodder for his move in SSF4, and those who were not would then be easy pickings.

Originally posted by crimson_2010
lool :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-wNF5ewguw

at 2:03
" if he fully awakened, Humankind will be exterminated."
and :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8_px-qg0rY

Azazel can turn the world we know into Ashes, i'm pretty sure Azazel takes it alone 😆

Agree but he's not as powerful as devil jin who can be compared to dbz :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxzoVshVf_8

conclusion : Akuma gets royally raped in the ass

1. Hyperbole is fun gaiz.

2. ... Lolwut?

Are you seriously saying that makes Devil Jin DBZ-lite?

King Piccolo from Dragonball would solo Tekken. 😬

Originally posted by crimson_2010
lool :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-wNF5ewguw

at 2:03
" if he fully awakened, Humankind will be exterminated."
and :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8_px-qg0rY

Azazel can turn the world we know into Ashes, i'm pretty sure Azazel takes it alone 😆

Agree but he's not as powerful as devil jin who can be compared to dbz :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxzoVshVf_8

conclusion : Akuma gets royally raped in the ass

Links don't work, and I pretty much know there isn't saying anything Azazel can ash the world, as I've played through the campaign, and if the video is about the statement that 2 stars will clash and bring about the end of the world via Azazel, again I'm not saying Azazel can't do it. It's how that matters when you think about it, because we need to know how he fights, and I don't recall what move Azazel has that is effective at destroying the world in any manner. That's why Azazel's power is hard to gauge, but it's good speculation I guess, and even going by the statement about Pachi, mankind isn't the world. It's a species, and Devil Jin falls short in early DBZ. Then again, so does everyone in Tekken or SF.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Wait...how is Devil Jin comparable to DBZ? Because he grunted and some rocks lifted from the ground? Yamcha would rape Devil Jin.
His T5 ending, although non-canon, is more than mere grunting and lifting some rocks. Clear bull, and It's obvious comparing Tekken or SF to DBZ is wrong in many ways.

Originally posted by addy101
yea ok...we shud do a yamcha vs devil jin later....

but for now...let heihachi deflower akuma....the way he likes it...

Heihachi is not > Akuma, but he would last a while considering durability and reaction time.

Originally posted by NemeBro
1. Because I am sure you can show me any Tekken character having remotely near island durability right?
Tell me what an island is made of, then consider the durability level of Bryan Fury, or Heihachi as I mentioned. Akuma is able to spread his energy. Akuma shattered rock, regardless of the size it is still the same material. Seeing as we don't know the size of said island, anyone is free to argue Heihachi could take the hit and get up in time, and a Jack (in an earlier Tekken) took a subcontinent-incinerating blast Akuma to this day wishes to accomplish. This is like arguing who in SF can withstand the mishima compound being wiped out, considering the size of it in Kuma's T5 prologue. Answering that would be just as hard.

The move in Gouki's ending in Super Street Fighter IV, destroyed an area of forest (An area making Devil Jin's look puny), but most of the attack is projected upwards, the attack can not only be seen from space, but actually left the atmosphere.
Your SF bias is obvious as always. Look at the result of the surge when Akuma is seen talking. He didn't eradicate much beyond the immediate large circular area he's in, and comparing both aftermaths from Jin's prologue and the SSF4 ending anyone without a biased mind will say the damage done is around the same, though I'll give it that it has more animation detail and went out of the atmosphere. Not that it going out the atmosphere helps.

3. You mean the Kongou Koku Retsu Zan? The move he did not create until SF3? Is Gouki a time traveler now? He used no special move to destroy the island.
Even if it wasn't the move, there's nothing to suggest it wasn't his strongest blow at the time of the ending. Charge time is also unconfirmed to determine it's effectiveness on opponents. Maybe that's why he only hits the ground with it. If one's to argue look at the charge time in gameplay, that move isn't island destroying in gameplay. A 2 second charge time managed to quake the ground, and even that by Tekken standards is too slow to hit an opponent, not to mention quaking the earth is in Tekken. Again, it's no wonder Akuma never throws island destroying punches at his opponents. It won't work, and overrated as usual.

4. Heihachi was KOed for weaks by a much weaker blast. 😐 As for Jack, prove the sattelite ray could destroy an island, though I do not remember this particular event.
I said take, which means he could take it and still survive. No on can prove it's stronger than the blast because his punch cracks Ayer's rock, so this can give us an idea about the size of the island if he managed to wreck it to a greater degree (it would then likely be smaller) and technique or no technique, it's the ki behind it that matters.

YouTube video

Again, for all anyone knows Akuma's island is bigger or smaller. No one seems to have the guts to admit this, well no one from a certain side.

5. Only you cannot prove exactly how long it took him to "take out" the Zaibatsu.
Because an ending that functions like a comic book page tells us the time frame for Akuma to do his move.

6. Only most of the cast would be fodder for his move in SSF4, and those who were not would then be easy pickings.
Akuma has no answer to the devils' telekinesis, and even his SGS is to be questioned considering the destination and lack of gaugable feats. Overrated-as-always punch hasn't a time frame, and wouldn't be effective against several, either in that it wouldn't do them, there are abilities to easily counter it with, or it's too slow especially with charge up time. Raven, Devil Jin/Kazuya, Gun Jack, just to name a few.