Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
I cant for the life of me, seem to be able to get into this gameit just feels clunky and slow and unintuitive compared to aksys' other games.. am I just not understanding whats going on, or?
For the rest of you guys, I got some details on the balance patch from Dustloop. This information is from a location test, so it COULD change before the patch is released.
I am stepping out for bit right now, but I'll add some comments when I get back. I will say this though. They took notice of how bad Rachel is right now and she got some nice buffs in the patch. I am quite happy about that.
I put it in the form of a quote for readability.
First Loctest 9/9/10:Ragna:
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[*]5D on grounded opponents no longer floats
[*]3C is techable
[*]5B>6A gattling is gone
[*]Inferno Divider no longer has wall bounce
[*]Belial edge doesn't bounce as high any more (can still follow up with a quick 5D)(?)[/LIST]:Jin:
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[*]2C>5C gattling added (cannot re-input 2C)
[*]B musou knocks down again[/LIST]:Noel:
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[*]2C>5C gattling added (cannot re-input 2C)
[*]j4D is damn fast. Crosses up on low height.
[*]5D reduced invincibility frames[/LIST]:Rachel:
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[*]Overall damage increased
[*]5B>2B gattling added
[*]6A activation speed increased
[*]6B on counter slides
[*]6B jump cancel possible on block
[*]2C hit stop increased
[*]5C>C now slides. Mid screen C lobelia>3D> Sword iris/BBL combos. In corner 5C>C>3C can be done for 2 loops.
[*]j2C can be canceled into attacks on landing
[*]Lobeilas come out even when hit
[*]George has been changed (there's a frog gauge now)
[*]Wind has longer recovery.
[*]Tempest dahlia? what the heck is that? [i think he means it's been removed][/LIST]:Tager:
Nothing known, something about his collider mechanics being revised:Taokaka:
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[*]New jB, cat motion 2's animation for 2 hits
[*]Old jB is now j2B
[*]Taunt loop's been nerfed bad. it's now a joke.
[*]Drives are more stiff(?), increased hit stop, more recovery.
[*]Health increase [i think.][/LIST]:Arakune:
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[*]Overall damage decreased
[*]Guarded drive moves give less curse meter[/LIST]:Litchi:
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[*]Can't cancel into 41236D.
[*]More gattlings without staff
[*]6A with staff must be RC otherwise no followups available
[*]4D slides. follow up possible in corner
[*]6D's level(?) decreased. [maybe priority?]
[*]jC without staff is now techable[/LIST]:Bang:
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[*]5B slower start up
[*]2C slower start up
[*]2B>5B gattling added. (cannot reinput 2B)
[*]Heavenly phoenix thrust no longer wall bounces for both air and ground
[*]3C is techable
[*]Ashura slower start up, no more invincibility frames (?), has become a joke DD[/LIST]:Carl:
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[*]2B>5B gattling added cannot re-input 2B)
[*]Ada's gauge recovers slower
[*]Untechable time on moves have changed, combos that work in v1.x does not work anymore[/LIST]:Hakumen:
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[*]jD cannot be followed up
[*]5D increased damage
[*]Added Snowflake/dim light animation added to Yukikaze[/LIST]:Lambda:
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[*]Blade summonings are slower
[*]5DD activation slowed
[*]5D is jump cancellable (not 5DD)
[*]6A has faster start up (no chance to invincibility)
[*]4D/4DD is jump cancellable, even on whiff
[*]Gravity combos are easier
[*]6B CH > 236C
[*]Calamity Sword (632146D) has slower start up[/LIST]:Tsubaki:
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[*]5D instantly gives 1 stock, but holding down D gives a slightly slower charge speed
[*]2D starts out slow but the charge speed rapidly increases. More recovery
[*]jD charge speed increased
[*]5B more strong
[*]2BB>5BB gattlings added (Cannot re-input 2BB)
[*]236A start up time increased, higher proration
[*]214A, B doesn't float opponent even when done by itself
[*]623A on counter hit, untechable time decreased so cannot follow up
[*]j236A has more startup, and can't be used in combos.
[*]j236C has some lag when you land.
[*]22D, whether charged or not, only knocks the opponent back (no wallbounce). From midscreen, you can combo with 236D. From the corner, you can just use normals
[*]Cannot cancel into any move from throw, throw slides. mid screen do 236D to follow up, in corner can follow up with normal combos(?)
[*]After air throw timing for follow up attacks more strict(?)[/LIST]:Hazama:
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[*]Ouroboros start up and move speed slowed (although it really feel like there's no difference)
[*]Ouroboros gauge takes longer to recover
[*]5B level reduced. If 5B>3C is not inputted with the fastest timing it won't combo[/LIST]:Mu:
None listed:Makoto:
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[*]Parry cancel gone
[*]5B faster start-up, can jump cancel even on block.
[/LIST][B]:Valkenhayn:
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[*]Drive name is Beowulf
[*]"Step Character" - has reasonable range. Good at follow-ups while doing damage.
[*]Cannot crouch/block in beast mode, does not automatically change direction (Must tap left/right)
[*]5A, 2A - small punches
[*]5B - kick
[*]2B - low kick
[*]6A - some kind of knee kick
[*]6B - some kind of mid attack
[*]5C - ridiculously long kick; reaches far
[*]6C - flying kick; hits mid ; feet invincible; no disadvantages even on guard; crushing attack
[*]2C - anti-air kick; fast startup; crushing attack
[*]3C - knockdown kick
[*]j.A, j.B - par for the course
[*]j.C - downward kick; even Slayer would be surprised how good this is.
[*]236A - called "Hell's Fang" - slight advantage on hit
[*]236B - has B-follow-up; low rush
[*]236C - "Upper"-type rush; hits mid
[*]Beast A - low clawing motion
[*]Beast B - stabs upward; head invincible
[*]Beast j.A - clawing motion
[*]Beast j.B - rages about in mid-air
[*]Beast C - goes airborne quickly
[*]Beast 236A, 236B - wolf charge; A moves horizontally, B moves diagonally upward
[*]Beast 236D - command throw, 2300 damage
[*]632146D - like Chipp's FujiyamaGeisha super; left defenseless if all hits are guarded
[*]j.236236C - Chokkagata Dandy
[*]214214214D - Astral Heat ; launches opponent, transforms, [something happens involving moon]
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Originally posted by No End N Site
We should make a petition!
Hell yeah! Ragna did make a meta-reference regarding Jubei in Miss Litchi Reloaded but that's not enough.
Just looked up a clip of Valkenhayn's gameplay after seeing beast mode listed under him. Whoa, he turns into a wolf and crashes into his enemies Jon Talbain style!
In case anyone cares, gameplay for Valkenhayn is out.
Really like his playstyle, also is a werewolf and stuff.
It'd be easier for me to list all the people who's designs I like, tbh.
Noel
Hakumen
Ragna(kinda)
Hazama
Everyone else is just like "meh". I don't reeeaalyyy mind the monster-esque people like Arakune because he's like a creature thing, but, a lot of the human/humanoid designs are just too crazy or loli.
Originally posted by RE: BlaxicanRagna is one of the designs I do not particularly care for. 😐
It'd be easier for me to list all the people who's designs I like, tbh.Noel
Hakumen
Ragna(kinda)
HazamaEveryone else is just like "meh". I don't reeeaalyyy mind the monster-esque people like Arakune because he's like a creature thing, but, a lot of the human/humanoid designs are just too crazy or loli.
Not even BANG SHISHIGAMI?
You're clearly a bad person.
Originally posted by NemeBro
In case anyone cares, gameplay for Valkenhayn is out.Really like his playstyle, also is a werewolf and stuff.
so.. talbain+slayer.. amirite
Originally posted by NemeBro
Kind of like how not too much of Hakumen was changed, liked where he was before, and his standard counter getting an increase in damage is good news indeed.Also **** you and your Nu loving bullshit Styletime. estahuh
She will return. I will be there with open arms. Then I will shoot swords through your TV.
Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
Man, I hate the chaarcter designs in this. I like some of them, like Noel's. Most of them just look to... generically Japanese exaggerated, I guess.
I can actually understand the position somewhat, so don't take that as a criticism. Your complaint is actually quite common. Still, series like BlazBlue/Guilty Gear/Arcana Heart and their ilk all get hated on in the West despite being fantastic games. 🙁
Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
It'd be easier for me to list all the people who's designs I like, tbh.Lambda-11
Mu-12
Nu-13
RachelEveryone else, except Arakune, is just like "meh".
Originally posted by Zack Fair
So how bad are the changes for the first localization test? Is it as bad as SSF4's changes crippling certain chars at high level play?
Even still, THEY ****ING SLOW DOWN LAMBDA'S SWORDS! WTF!?
Originally posted by StyleTimeHakumen deserves to, after being bottom tier. That was some bullshit. estahuh
I am suprised actually. Apart from Bang and Litchi, Hakumen like....rocks the rest of the cast. I'm surprised they didn't toss some nerfs his way. Instead, they SLOW DOWN LAMBDA'S SWORDS! WTF!?She will return. I will be there with open arms. Then I will shoot swords through your TV.
Aesthetics aren't much more than a bonus for me in fighting games, but your complaint is actually quite common. I can actually understand the position somewhat, so don't take that as a criticism. Still, BlazBlue, Guilty Gear, Arcana Heart and their ilk all get hated on despite being fantastic games. 🙁
I'm in it more for the mechnics in the game. I'd play a stick figure fighting game provided the system was good and enjoyable.
I couldn't help but notice you had a pretty big typo there. I fixed it though. All is well.
It's hard to say if they are crippled just yet, but they've definitely targeted the top tier. To be honest, most people agree Jin and Lambda were probably the most balanced people in the cast. Some think everyone should just be nerfed or boosted to their level, and we'd be good.
Even still, THEY ****ING SLOW DOWN LAMBDA'S SWORDS! WTF!?
Well, given the true ending, Nu technically will return, she just will only be a shell of her former self, I for one hope she gets the Rachel treatment. 131
I was not aware that Guilty Gear in particular was hated on, Blazblue mebbe, but Guilty Gear?
Same, I prefer the gameplay of Blazblue and GG to other fighting games.
You got some kinda of fetish for the Murakumo units sir? 131
... Could not really blame you. 😐 Also Rachel is one of my favorite characters, so meh.
Lol umad?
