Jedah Dohma vs. Hazama

Stupid ass 15 minute rule.

Originally posted by Frisky Dingo
Air Dashes, Ex specials, chain combos and many other systems present N ALL fighters

Don't forget about unique character abilities for pretty much most of the cast, if not everyone. Jedah had an air dash that not only doubles as an attack but also goes completly across the screen in 1 go. Hsienko could run on air and flicker on and off screen like a ghost, making her intangible every time she blinked off. Sasquatch could triangle jump (he honestly may have invented the tri jump). L.Raptor could crawl. Everyone had some lil thing that they could pull off and it's crazy how the game wasn't broken.

Originally posted by Frisky Dingo
There isn't a fighting game that came out after 3rd Strike that holds a candle 2 the 1st Vampire Savior.

Even tho 3rd Strike is pretty far from balanced as VS, The Most Balanced 2D fighter after SFI, I like 3rd Strike better than any DS game, that's just me. SSFIV is up there with 3rd Strike, too. I really haven't had the time to play it lately.

On a random note, Scott Pilgrim is one fun ass game.

Originally posted by No End N Site
1. Fool...

2. Delusional...

2. Nah.

On a serious note, there probably will not be another Darkstalkers, which is laem. Though if there is one, will prolly be no Pyron. Which is nearly as laem.

Melee has more options than all those games

Shut the **** up Cyner.

Originally posted by NemeBro
I find Jedah boring to be honest. Terumi steals any scene he is in.

I think Hazama's cool, really cool. He seriously lacks character depth tho. Meanwhile Jedah's a very deep philisophical character. Every sentence that dude utters can be quoted. OMFG at his boss intro!

Originally posted by NemeBro
On a serious note, there probably will not be another Darkstalkers, which is laem. Though if there is one, will prolly be no Pyron. Which is nearly as laem.

DS4 is already already in development and Capcom gives a flyin' phuck about plots and stories. Everyone will be in it.

Originally posted by Cyner
Melee has more options than all those games

Yup and that game is garbage as hell and no one takes it seriously. That's why there were like 20 participants for it at EVO. And like 1000 (way too much) participants for SF. "More" options aint always a good thing. Melee is shit on wall in comparison to any of the games mentioned in this thread. No lie, fa'reel. That's like 90% fact.

Put that under yur pillow at night.

Originally posted by No End N Site
I think Hazama's cool, really cool. He seriously lacks character depth tho. Meanwhile Jedah's a very deep philisophical character. Every sentence that dude utters can be quoted. OMFG at his boss intro!

DS4 is already already in development and Capcom gives a flyin' phuck about plots and stories. Everyone will be in it.

2. I don't recall hearing about DS4 being in development, link?

Originally posted by NemeBro
1. What about Jedah is at all deep and philosophical? 😐 "MAKAI SUCKZORZ SO IM GONNA MAKE ALL REALITY FUSE WITH ONE SUPAHBEING!!!" Just another douchedick with a God complex. Terumi is much more straight-forward (And much moar evul) than Jedah is as a villain, but that is the beauty in the character, and is pulled off really well.

2. I don't recall hearing about DS4 being in development, link?

2 capcom is acting the same way they did with sfiv and
mvc3

Originally posted by No End N Site
1.wow you really ain't read much of jedahs in game dialouge. Haz looks cool but there are 100 hazamas in every anime. The sneaky sly villian is really played out. However a villian who doesn't realize he's a villian in fighting game of all places is just too cool for words. He's the anti Christ but thinks he's Jesus Christ. That's one bad motha phucka. Hazama has been done 1000 times. There ain't many like jedah especialy when he 1st appeared. Any fighting game boss with anti Christ undertones is made
made of win.

2 capcom is acting the same way they did with sfiv and
mvc3

2. You did not adequately respond to my request.

Originally posted by No End N Site
However a villian who doesn't realize he's a villian in fighting game of all places is just too cool for words. He's the anti Christ but thinks he's Jesus Christ. That's one bad motha phucka. Hazama has been done 1000 times. There ain't many like jedah especialy when he 1st appeared. Any fighting game boss with anti Christ undertones is made
made of win.

They did an Xcellent job with him N XEdge. Isn't he the boss of the entire game? He was like the only evil character N the cross over who plotted against the "Little God Kids" and openly showed how little he thought of them.

What was even more of a treat, I notice how they kept the little Capcom joke that all of the non Darkstalker characters thought he talked 2 much and spoke N a very esoteric manner. N CFJ, every1's win quote is basiclly telling Jedah 2 STFU. How does Jedah die N XEdge, anyway?

We can talk about Jedah N general right, he is N this thread?

Originally posted by Frisky Dingo
They did an Xcellent job with him N XEdge. Isn't he the boss of the entire game? He was like the only evil character N the cross over who plotted against the "Little God Kids" and openly showed how little he thought of them.

What was even more of a treat, I notice how they kept the little Capcom joke that all of the non Darkstalker characters thought he talked 2 much and spoke N a very esoteric manner. N CFJ, every1's win quote is basiclly telling Jedah 2 STFU. How does Jedah die N XEdge, anyway?

We can talk about Jedah N general right, he is N this thread?

I'll have to get back to you on this cuz X Edge sux nutz and it's very hard to get through. He is THE boss depending on the path you take. And yes, he care very little for Vivi, Mimi, and Cici. He displays this quite clearly but they are just too afraid to do anything to him. He still all over that Shintai shit, now he just has more worlds to soul rape.

Look out Disgaea, Jedah's 'a commin'! No seriously, I really gotta jump back into that game, it really does suck. I just bought it cuz the art is pretty snazy and O'course, DS are in it. Not to mention, I really don'st care for RPGs anymore, period.

Originally posted by NemeBro
1. ... Have you... Actually played Blazblue? Completed story mode and whatnot? The "sneaky and sly" character archetype only applies to his facade as Hazama, Captain of the NOL, as Terumi he is nothing like how you described him. His is a sort of evil that is not seen as often in gaming, or even fiction, a complete monster who delights in smug, sadistic torment of those he antagonises, mindrape is pretty much his hobby, and he is played so refreshingly straight-forward that I can confidently declare he is one of the best characters fighting games has ever had. Jedah is just a Well-Intentioned Extremist, and not a very charismatic one at that, he does not capture the player as easily nor steal the scenes he is in to nearly the same degree Terumi does.

Don't mean to diss the guy, but behind the cool appearance, dude is just a butt hurt emo who's mad at the world. The dude's character is 1/2 an inch thick and has been 'way' overdone in the wide world of video games, especialy Japanese ones. He looks cool, moves cool and has cool moves. That's about it. Jedah lacks charisma and that's intentionally part of his character as Demitri actually says that in the game. And as far as "scene stealling" goes. There aint many scenes in DS, period, as the game was made in the mid to early 90s. The fighting game genre wasn't all too hip on the overdramatic, crappy anime mess it's into now. LMABO, I can assure you that Jedah captures his audience much better than Haz does. Grotesquely mutilating yourself, practicing sexual fetishes, stealling souls, slicing people in half, and fighting inside a monsterous womb; all of this at the will of the player pretty much puts him over Haz or anyone in BB for that matter.

Originally posted by NemeBro
2. You did not adequately respond to my request.

???. Coulda sworn I did.

Originally posted by No End N Site
Don't mean to diss the guy, but behind the cool appearance, dude is just a butt hurt emo who's mad at the world. The dude's character is 1/2 an inch thick and has been 'way' overdone in the wide world of video games, especialy Japanese ones. He looks cool, moves cool and has cool moves. That's about it. Jedah lacks charisma and that's intentionally part of his character as Demitri actually says that in the game. And as far as "scene stealling" goes. There aint many scenes in DS, period, as the game was made in the mid to early 90s. The fighting game genre wasn't all too hip on the overdramatic, crappy anime mess it's into now. LMABO, I can assure you that Jedah captures his audience much better than Haz does. Grotesquely mutilating yourself, practicing sexual fetishes, stealling souls, slicing people in half, and fighting inside a monsterous womb; all of this at the will of the player pretty much puts him over Haz or anyone in BB for that matter.

???. Coulda sworn I did.

2. You clearly didn't.

Edit: Oh yeah, and Disgaea characters would eat Jedah for breakfast.

Originally posted by NemeBro
1. So yeah, come back to this thread when you actually play the game's story-mode, because it is so laughably obvious you have yet to. "A butthurt emo who's made at the world?" First of all, you cannot actually show me Terumi so much as making a sad face in game, everything in both games has all gone according to his plans, he is not a butthurt emo. What does he have to be butthurt about? "Aw man I'm so depressed on how I was able to achieve perfect immortality and outsmart and take down the Gods of this world, it's so hard being me. Being immortal and invincible is so hard..." Yeah, Terumi never acts "emo" at all in the games. You cannot show me many characters who are able to pull off being such a smug snake, complete monster, and magnificent bastard all at once so effectively in a videogame. Seriously, it would help if you actually have played Blazblue. You fail to comprehend what I meant when I said he lacked charisma. Yes and it just makes them poorer characters, doesn't it? 🙂 Only absolutely none of what you mentioned supports your argument of Jedah's merits as a character, it's just gimmicky bullshit that doesn't matter when comparing their CHARACTERS, I capitalised it in the likely vain hope that you would understand what I am talking about. Terumi is one of the best characters ArcSys has ever put out, an impressive feat, when one considers how BB and GG characters are the best in fighting games, far above Street Fighter and Darkstalkers characters, that's for sure. 🙂 Seriously, Darkstalkers and Streetfighter are great series, you liking them better than BlazBlue or Guilty Gear is fine with me, but in terms of characters and writing, BB and GG are better.

2. You clearly didn't.

Edit: Oh yeah, and Disgaea characters would eat Jedah for breakfast.

1. 😂 I knew my previous would piss you off.

Yeah, you turned into a super huge phuck face about a topic that is clearly opinion, that's very lame cuz it really aint that God damn serious. I'm just gonna agree to diagree cuz some of the shit yur sayin' now is ridiculous to me and FYI, I played the story mode up and down and dude is just another cliche anime charcater, that's it. Hate or love it, but that's just how I feel. All this other bullshit you throw at me is irrelevent and I have way too much of a life to respond to all that wierd shit you tacked up there. If you like BB and GG that much, cool. But don't come forcin' yur damn opinion on me like I give a phuck. I really don't, I was just tryin to have a conversation witchya. I'm pretty sure I've been a fan of Sammy/Aksys since before you knew they even existed

2. Oh the phuck well.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Edit: Oh yeah, and Disgaea characters would eat Jedah for breakfast.

I haven't played all the Disgeaes so I can't agree or disagree. But I do know you don't know WTF yur talkin' about. And what I find to be super retarded is how you say things like this in every Jedah thread, when you don't know the current state of the plot, the current state of the character and the fact that dude can regenerate from nothing. Is Eternal and Immortal and the character in-game isn't even the real Jedah. Me and Remo can't even talk about DS, period, without you jumpin' in and hatin' on the shit. Damn dude, STOP! If you don't like the shit, then stay the phuck away. Don't be an ass and try to start up some mess. That shit's lame as phuck. No lie.

Now, good day to you sir.

It's funny because technically you two are debating Jedah vs Hazama.

Just probably not in the way the topic start intended.

Ya' know, yur damn right. I trully didn't notice that. Anyone heard about BBCS:II?

Yeah. From what I've read of it, not much has changed except having all the console exclusive characters for arcade play and some balance changes.

As for the match, I guess Jedah traps Terumi in some bloody (literally) dimensional realm and mutilates him.
But still, Hazama has the better creation.

Originally posted by No End N Site
DS4 is already already in development and Capcom gives a flyin' phuck about plots and stories. Everyone will be in it.

Even tho I like games with coherent plots, I'm actually hoping 4 the Ntire cast 2 return if there was a DS4. Finally, Capcom could answer my most deepest burning question, "Who would win, Pyron or Jedah? Life would B complete if I just new the answer.

BTW, nice sig.

Originally posted by Esomark
Yeah. From what I've read of it, not much has changed except having all the console exclusive characters for arcade play and some balance changes.

I wonder if it's gunna be disk or DLC?

Originally posted by Frisky Dingo
Even tho I like games with coherent plots, I'm actually hoping 4 the Ntire cast 2 return if there was a DS4.

Yeah, you want Cap to pull a SSFIV. Have characters in who shouldn't be. Still, DS3 has 18 characters at the max. 22 if you include alternate versions, Marionette and Shadow. You know me, anything over 21 and anything under 16 is a poor cast job in the year 2010.

Originally posted by Frisky Dingo
Finally, Capcom could answer my most deepest burning question, "Who would win, Pyron or Jedah? Life would B complete if I just new the answer.

I still think it's a tie of sorts. Jedah has dark spiritual powers and Pyron is BIG AS HELL. Also, I was playin' NW the other day and seen Pyron had a win quote that said "I have crushed stars! What chance have you against me!" Never seen it before and I have no idea how I got'im to say it. If the guy can crush stars, Jedah's in trouble. The only reason why I don't give Pyron the win is cuz both characters come from the same universe and have never been shown at serious levels of power.

Originally posted by Frisky Dingo
BTW, nice sig.

Thanx! This was just somethin' threw together cuz I got tired of lookin at Morrigan's sexy ass every time I came to KMC, but whaddaya know, she found her way into this one too. On a even more random note. Have you seen the last of the SFII UDON comic. Ryu VS Bison, Akuma VS Bison, Ryu VS Akuma...FINALLY. It went down! An epic end to a modern day masterpiece. I hope they do SFIII soon.

Originally posted by No End N Site
Ya' know, yur damn right. I trully didn't notice that. Anyone heard about BBCS:II?

Originally posted by Esomark
Yeah. From what I've read of it, not much has changed except having all the console exclusive characters for arcade play and some balance changes.

Screw what Nemebro thinks.

Originally posted by No End N Site
On a even more random note. Have you seen the last of the SFII UDON comic. Ryu VS Bison, Akuma VS Bison, Ryu VS Akuma...FINALLY. It went down! An epic end to a modern day masterpiece. I hope they do SFIII soon.

Gouken also stepped in briefly. It was a good ending. The only thing I found disappointing about the Turbo comics was the art style. Why did they change it from the previous two?

The Ibuki Legends comic is also an enjoyable read, especially the latest one with Oro and Ibuki's match. Oro's appearance also nearly freaked out the owner of the local comic book shop where I got it from! It was quite surprising, considering all the content from other comics he gets into his store.

I have UDON's 2008 preview issue and a Street Fighter III comic is definitely planned.

Anyone also read the Darkstalkers comics? I'm glad the long cliffhanger finally came to an end and the fight with Pyron not only had Demitri and Morrigan but Donovan as well! Another epic end.