Do You Love Your Own Race/Ethnicity?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
BRITE POWER!

will a white supremacist group take in a white european looking mexican if he is blond and blue eye or green eyed?

what if he is tanned but has european features and claims to be white even though he has even more mexican genes then white ones.. like the stupid redneck white texans whom you can tell have mexican in their family tree who are racist and claim to be white with last names like garcia or Gomez.. facepalm2
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@dadudemon

drylaugh i laughed last week when you were temp banned it was so obvious u were baiting not just me but a lot of other ppl last time..

anyways here it looks like an honest mistake pls dont ban him anymore he cant afford it.. especially with a certain tyrant lurking around.

'Races' are all made up crap. Irish and germans weren't considered white in some regions of the usa upon a time, catholics werent either.

In my country, races aren't even recognized in the way they are in the USA - as actual categories of people defined as bloodlines tracing back to original populations. Saying people are white or black here is just a physical descriptin and yet we still have colorism like discrimination here. Because the world is full of dickheads.

Originally posted by King Castle
@dadudemon

drylaugh i laughed last week when you were temp banned it was so obvious u were baiting not just me but a lot of other ppl last time..

anyways here it looks like an honest mistake pls dont ban him anymore he cant afford it.. especially with a certain tyrant lurking around.

Huh? I'm confused.

You should probably not bring those things up.

And, you're right: I thought Sym quoted her and edited her post: something people do in the OTF all the time, as a joke.

Back on topic, though..

Originally posted by 753

In my country, races aren't even recognized in the way they are in the USA -

You live in France?

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
You live in France?

I don't agree with being proud of your races' ancestry. Maybe if someone in you family tree did something important, I could understand. But taking credit or pride from the deeds of someone else seems stupid in my opinion, no matter what skin color they have.

It is dumb for white Americans to take credit for what the Founding Fathers did. It is also dumb for black Americans to take credit for the slavery that their ancestors went through.

Originally posted by 753
This phrase shows perfectly what a bunch made up crap 'race' is.

Why? How does it show "perfectly" that its made up crap?

Aint nothing wrong with being proud. In fact Chicano Pride has less to do with being proud, and more to do with not being ashamed.

Te amo mi raza, guey.

I'm proud of my nationality and my culture, but being white has never been a part of that, really.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Why? How does it show "perfectly" that its made up crap?

Aint nothing wrong with being proud. In fact Chicano Pride has less to do with being proud, and more to do with not being ashamed.

Te amo mi raza, guey.

Apreciating and taking pride in one's cultural background and nation, specially when faced with the opression of racist and xenophobic cultures who believe in their own superiority is both laudable and a way to fight opression itself. But it has nothing to do with race, rather with a way of life and the feeling of pertinece to a cultural group, not a racial one.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
So if you raise a white kid speaking Chinese he won't be able to speak it as well as a Chinese person? Color me skeptical.

not so simply, this would probably be a difference in ease rather than potential when learning a language, and the study is hugely contrivertable anyways. My psycholinguistics prof was essentially dismissive of the idea (though she has no real neuro/bio background)

because the difference would be in ease of learning to distinguish, for instance, the two different "th" sounds in arabic vs the one in english would be easier to "hear" as different at a very early age. In practice, it is totally unknown what this would mean in terms of differences in language development.

The only possible mechanism I could think of would be epi-genetics, which isn't actually outlandish

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Why do you say that?

I love being Latino; Arriba la Raza!.

because my race is wholly insignificant to me

Originally posted by Dr. Leg Kick
We're all of the same species, as for 'race', there are individuals in one 'race' that have more genetic similarities with an individual from another 'race' than that of the first individuals own.

I thought the surprising amount of diversity they found when they finally mapped the human genome called this into question again?

Originally posted by 753
Folk definitions of race have no consistancy whatsoever, they are defined arround skincolor (which is absurd enough) as wells language or religion.
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Well, in USA it is prevalent to be all about skin colour. While I agree that there are no 'races' per se, human race was previously organised between three great races which were: Caucasoid, Mongoloid and Negroid with no regards to skin colour whatsoever.

People in North and Horn of Africa were refereed to as Caucasian, such as Ethiopians. That never meant they were white just that they were Caucasian...
While I understand the problems of this categorization, it's still better than colour or nation orientated.

I dont give a toss what race I or other people are. There are nice folk, nutters and idiots in every race.

Originally posted by 753
Because being latin or chicano has nothing to do with 'race' but eith a culture. Folk definitions of race have no consistancy whatsoever, they are defined arround skincolor (which is absurd enough) as wells language or religion.

Apreciating and taking pride in one's cultural background and nation, specially when faced with the opression of racist and xenophobic cultures who believe in their own superiority is both laudable and a way to fight opression itself. But it has nothing to do with race, rather with a way of life and the feeling of pertinece to a cultural group, not a racial one.

however, that these completely artificial patterns of aesthetics seemed to group so solidly into iirc 7-9 racial categories, which can be identified cross culturally, from silouettes (no skin tone), with 80% accuracy, is interesting to say the least.

Or, that the types of differences in appearance we have are those that seem to facilitate a cognitive "schema" for different racial groups.

I do wish I can speak a diff lang though by default. Knowing two or more lang is cool.

Originally posted by The Nuul
I do wish I can speak a diff lang though by default. Knowing two or more lang is cool.

you dont speak french?!?!?!?!

for shame

Hellz no, I took it in school and hated it. But now I wish I could, more money and its not a bad lang. I had a change of heart after going to Ottawa.

Originally posted by 753
Brasil

Originally posted by The Nuul
Hellz no, I took it in school and hated it. But now I wish I could, more money and its not a bad lang. I have a change of heart after going to Ottawa.

lol, I know what you are saying

the way they do it in schools is so bad. You'd have to get kids in an immersive environment so young if you wanted a good portion of the population to know it. As it is, it just sucks to try and learn it in school, but it would be awesome to know fluently.

I'm not really proud of any part of humanity. Humans are greedy, narcissistic, destructive creatures. Despite possessing higher intelligence we rarely care about the long term cnsequences of our actions.

If I have a kid, he/she will learn a different on top of eng.