Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
Do you like the show so far? I just need some quality responses from Etrigan supporters... something...substantial.
There is none... he has a decent showing against Supes but its nothing to suggest that he has super human speed, he basically tap into his magic the entire time. He has a good strength feat though, he punched Superman to the moon but thats about it. There is nothing showing that he can keep up or even hit someone like Dante that believe in "true blitzing" the entire fight.
Then Dante is walking around with Etrigans weakness... this is a none fight because its like 100% that Dante WILL get the first attack and Dante is a outright killer so his first attack might be a head shot.
Originally posted by carver9
There is none... he has a decent showing against Supes but its nothing to suggest that he has super human speed, he basically tap into his magic the entire time. He has a good strength feat though, he punched Superman to the moon but thats about it. There is nothing showing that he can keep up or even hit someone like Dante that believe in "true blitzing" the entire fight.Then Dante is walking around with Etrigans weakness... this is a none fight because its like 100% that Dante WILL get the first attack and Dante is a outright killer so his first attack might be a head shot.
Outright killer against Etrigan's kind, remember, Etrigan is NOT a halfblood, he's pureblood posessing the human host (Jason Blood).
As for strength... first of all, speed kills, and next, Dante has Royal Guard that accumulates and releases enemy's kinetic energy back to enemy... it was tested not only aganist Savior, but (by yound and inexperienced Dante) against Class 70 Beowulf. I think that a barrage of hits from class 70 with no scratch is impressive shit.
Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
Outright killer against Etrigan's kind, remember, Etrigan is NOT a halfblood, he's pureblood posessing the human host (Jason Blood).As for strength... first of all, speed kills, and next, Dante has Royal Guard that accumulates and releases enemy's kinetic energy back to enemy... it was tested not only aganist Savior, but (by yound and inexperienced Dante) against Class 70 Beowulf. I think that a barrage of hits from class 70 with no scratch is impressive shit.
I agree with everything you said, thats why I said this was a stomp/none fight. Etrigan has a lot of showings, decent ones but not enough to make me think he could beat Dante.
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Thought Dante also differentiated good demons from bad, but his universe doesn't really have any good demons.Are we thinking Dante carries Holy Water with him at all times or something?
A flack or two are buyable weaponry in all the games, it's bog standart equipment for demon hunters in the -verse, I think.
Holy water\iron weaknesses are read up on Wiki, I'll dig up actual scans later. It's hard to devote myself to passionate debating with full time job... really miss good olde college times🙁
I think iron weakness is more of a BS one, TBH. Reminds me of Dresdenverse fairies...
Originally posted by Charlotte DeBelI think iron weakness is more of a BS one, TBH. Reminds me of Dresdenverse fairies...
Originally posted by Charlotte DeBelI thought cold iron being a weakness to demons was common knowledge in THIS world? I guess that just if you study folklore.
Also, Etrigan has two weaknesses - one is common knowledge even in Dante's world and can be exploited given the slightest chance - holy water, the second one is really lame (iron), I won't count on it as common knowledge, and whether or not it gets exploited depends on the battlefield.I have presented the analysis covering most exploitable weaknesses of Etrigan. Some physical\magical durability feats for Dante will be presented later if needed.
It's the origin of the horseshoe being lucky, generally because they were made of iron, hanging one up was said to ward off witches, undead and other supernatural malevolent entities such as demons.
Seems well known enough in Marvel, or at least the X-Men know about it.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
With Dresdenverse fairies though the iron weakness is even worse, pretty much any object with some iron in it can hurt them. In DC I think the iron content has to be very high as in cast iron, steel doesn't cut it.
It need to be real "cold iron", alloys and enhanced alloys doesn't cut it.
And I don't remember ANY DMC demons being specifically weak to iron, that's why that falls under "fairy tales and superstitions" category in Dante's mind... though the chance to exploit the weakness depends on the battlefield.
If they say fight on construction site or in medieval castle, then given Dante's talent for improvisation...
Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
It need to be real "cold iron", alloys and enhanced alloys doesn't cut it.And I don't remember ANY DMC demons being specifically weak to iron, that's why that falls under "fairy tales and superstitions" category in Dante's mind... though the chance to exploit the weakness depends on the battlefield.
If they say fight on construction site or in medieval castle, then given Dante's talent for improvisation...
Isnt Dante sword magical in nature, especially when he is wielding it? Doesnt he also have another transformation where that Ironman looking suit cross his body and he gains more speed, strength, and durability along with magic?