Originally posted by King Castle
only in senses near equal but i cap has the better strength and durability feats as well as healing
Well Cap experienced a time he was actually superhuman. But that wasn't during his whole career and isn't now either.
But a panther diety is augmenting BP physical attributes and giving him resistance to magic.
Originally posted by King Castlethat's not the same anymore, wolverine healign factor is at a constant level now, with our without adamantium I believe, so the only difference is he's less durable now.
bone clawed wolverine had a hyper healing factor amp.. he was healing nearly instantaneously as soon as damage was done faster then his adamantium version.t'challa dislocating or ripping a tendon would heal as soon as the damage was done.
it take days to weaken logan to the point where the damage would be enough to change the odds in their favor.
it took rough house a few days of torturing logan to the point that they nearly burned out his HF and even then logan was still regenerating just at a slower lvl.
also the superskrull that Black panther beat although having various powers could only use one at a time.. T'challa was hurting him when he deactivated his durability for other powers like Bullseye accuracy and Ironfist fist... T'challa figured out when to attack him when he didnt have lukes strength or durability
he could only use one power at a time, he still knew all the fighting styles
wolverine has been ko'd by many opponents, and it didn't take days to do it...they had super strength, but they had to deal with the adamantium, which t'challa and bucky don't have to deal with
Originally posted by Trackz
wasn't cyber always made of adamantium?for all we knock that might've broken dakens bones, daken was suffering from a lot of internal injuries, his monologue showed that.
Nope. He wasn't born like that. He had to endure the painful process of grafting his skin with adamantium. But yes, Burr had adamantium at that time.
True, but he's still taken more punishment (and kept fighting) than a one-tonner could ever hope to dish out.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTWhe got woozy after deadpool put a well-placed kick to his head
Nope. He wasn't born like that. He had to endure the painful process of grafting his skin with adamantium. But yes, Burr had adamantium at that time.True, but he's still taken more punishment (and kept fighting) than a one-tonner could ever hope to dish out.
Originally posted by King CastleI'm not using low end feats...and wolverine healing factor was different, in the past it was increased without adamantium, this isn't the case anymore.
you know that you are not suppose to use low end jobbing but the mid range ones.. which would make your argument moot.the bone clawed skeleton version had high end healing factor and wasnt easily ko'ed.
anyways do i need to post the rules on lowballing?
Originally posted by Trackzhow is it not the case,, since there is only one version of bone clawed wolverine and he had amp HF... unless you want to use him fresh from when magneto ripped his adamantium and his hf was burned out to the point he didnt have one?
I'm not using low end feats...and wolverine healing factor was different, in the past it was increased without adamantium, this isn't the case anymore.
Originally posted by King Castlecheck the respect thread, he stopped getting an amped healing factor without adamantium
how is it not the case,, since there is only one version of bone clawed wolverine and he had amp HF... unless you want to use him fresh from when magneto ripped his adamantium and his hf was burned out to the point he didnt have one?
the adamantium is what retarded his HF since it was constantly fighting the adamantium in his body..
once removed his HF burned itself out to keep him alive.. so he went a few months without a hf where he thought he was gonna die, so he went top make peace with his friends.
he later found out in a fight against deadpool when he thought he was dead from a lung stab that his healing factor had come back as it healed him slowly.. after that his healing factor kept getting stronger for about a yr to the point that he was spontaneously healing from injuries that use to take him days to heal from.
he also found out that he was further mutating getting stronger and more feral..
i dont need to look at the respect thread since i know about logan in that portion of his life like the back of my hand.
Originally posted by King Castle
the adamantium is what retarded his HF since it was constantly fighting the adamantium in his body..once removed his HF burned itself out to keep him alive.. so he went a few months without a hf where he thought he was gonna die, so he went top make peace with his friends.
he later found out in a fight against deadpool when he thought he was dead from a lung stab that his healing factor had come back as it healed him slowly.. after that his healing factor kept getting stronger for about a yr to the point that he was spontaneously healing from injuries that use to take him days to heal from.
he also found out that he was further mutating getting stronger and more feral..
i dont need to look at the respect thread since i know about logan in that portion of his life like the back of my hand.
then he got his adamantium back, but this time it no longer retarded his healing, therefore the only difference between current wolverine with adamantium and without is that he is less durable. not completely sure on this though.
and i am using feats of his bone skeleton time to explain to you how ineffective any injury given to him by either BP or bucky would be.
while you seem more focus on the lowball end of adamantium logan however modern they are to explain how he can be dropped by these two which would not be the likely outcome and would be far and inbetween to get them the win.
bone clawed logan was taking chucks of stone shrapnel through his body like it was nothing and still operating at peak. the size of teh shrapnel in his body were good large sizes about size of a soft ball and length of a foot.
i am referring when he was fighting Ozymandias with his fellow x men.
Originally posted by King Castle
and i am using feats of his bone skeleton time to explain to you how ineffective any injury given to him by either BP or bucky would be.while you seem more focus on the lowball end of adamantium logan however modern they are to explain how he can be dropped by these two which would not be the likely outcome and would be far and inbetween to get them the win.
bone clawed logan was taking chucks of stone shrapnel through his body like it was nothing and still operating at peak. the size of teh shrapnel in his body were good large sizes about size of a soft ball and length of a foot.
i am referring when he was fighting Ozymandias with his fellow x men.
logan is ko'd, like many other people, when his brain rocks around in his cranium, which why regardless of how much his healing factor is taxed, we see him get woozy or get ko'd from a powerul hit to the head, this happens enough times not to be low balling the character. now the people who have done it had to get passed his adamantium skull, but without it there's no reason a couple ofe 1-ton punches or punchs from buckys bionic arm couldn't put him down, especially seeing as he's going against someone like t'challa who is currently in the same physical ball park, and bucky is no slouch.