Originally posted by -Pr-
i meant "magic" as in, out of nowehere, completely out of the ordinary, etc etc.your reasoning doesn't follow the rules of this forum.
I think it does but you are the mod so u know better i guess. Plot of story and stupidity are two different things.
But again, she doesn't have to blitz him.
She can avoid his attacks (assuming she lets him attacks first) and hit him and keep hitting him. It will be easy still.
And finally, not blitzing right away doesn't mean they will never blitz. Let the chips fall where they may and see what happens.
Originally posted by Silent MasterNo of course not. But characters fight at their best here as shown before. Spidey has super speed and precognition and can dodge hails of machine gun fire, lasers, etc. and get hit by slower moving enemies. It's due to either "Plot of the story", "Jobbing", "Lowballing", or "PIS". That's why this is a forum fight not a comic one.
So, you're saying that nobody w/Thor's level of speed has ever hit her or managed to blast her with energy attacks?
PR or somebody should really shut this down -- it really is a spite stomp. Diana can manage much of Thor's output long enough for Kara and Karen to make with the stomp-y whoop-ass. (But, of course, in comics, things would work out a bit differently -- but forum-wise, the ladies take with a stomp).
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As far a h1a8's statements about WW: uhhh... NO... Now, mind you, WW can stand up to Thor *much* better than many think (especially Quan), but she isn't going to stomp him, ever. Thor has plenty of instances of managing to keep combat pace with speedsters (whether via pushing his own speed/prowess, or by playing the "god" card), and not all of them were PIS on others parts, or major jobbing. She makes a 5/10 split with him (with considerable attrition on her part); PG makes it a simple to steady majority; SG makes it an estro-stomp, when tagging with the other two...
Originally posted by Silent Master
Let me guess, all the times that Thor done things like tagging Surfer and Gladiator or catching Hermes would be examples of "Plot of the story", "Jobbing", "Lowballing", or "PIS".
Only when it wasn't a cheapshot. Many here, especially Naija, argue about SS's reaction times and speed. They provide scans and evidence to it. They do this to defeat any argument that SS can't avoid certain attacks. I accept it because it is valid. I ignore the times SS was hit by slower moving enemies (Hulk, etc.). To be fair, I expect others to do the same for me.
With that said, Thor's biggest and most glaring weaknesses are
1. Thor can have the hammer knocked from him.
2. When the hammer is thrown and misses.
3. Thor can be caused to drop the hammer by a severe blow to the head.
This is the reason why I give SS and most speedsters the majority against him.
Originally posted by tideoftime
PR or somebody should really shut this down -- it really is a spite stomp. Diana can manage much of Thor's output long enough for Kara and Karen to make with the stomp-y whoop-ass. (But, of course, in comics, things would work out a bit differently -- but forum-wise, the ladies take with a stomp).*****
As far a h1a8's statements about WW: uhhh... NO... Now, mind you, WW can stand up to Thor *much* better than many think (especially Quan), but she isn't going to stomp him, ever. Thor has plenty of instances of managing to keep combat pace with speedsters (whether via pushing his own speed/prowess, or by playing the "god" card), and not all of them were PIS on others parts, or major jobbing. She makes a 5/10 split with him (with considerable attrition on her part); PG makes it a simple to steady majority; SG makes it an estro-stomp, when tagging with the other two...
Or Thor could summon a very powerful hurricane and or tornado while spamming lightning and hail the size of cars from the skies making the women fight the wind and dodge the hail and lightning giving him the needed openings to take them out making it not a stomp.
When adequately provoked, Thor does use his weather powers to his advantage. Team still wins the majority but not a stomp as some would believe.
Originally posted by tideoftimeAs far a h1a8's statements about WW: uhhh... NO... Now, mind you, WW can stand up to Thor *much* better than many think (especially Quan), but she isn't going to stomp him, ever.
Yes, really!
Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
Or Thor could summon a very powerful hurricane and or tornado while spamming lightning and hail the size of cars from the skies making the women fight the wind and dodge the hail and lightning giving him the needed openings to take them out making it not a stomp.When adequately provoked, Thor does use his weather powers to his advantage. Team still wins the majority but not a stomp as some would believe.
I don't think throwing in weather is going to make it not a stomp. 3-on-1 gives a heck of a lot more openings than even a powerful storm system does, and for the most part they can ignore wind and hail and such because they're all super-tough, not even natural lightning or giant hail will do all that much. Not nearly as much as, say, heatvision to the back.
Originally posted by h1a8
No of course not. But characters fight at their best here as shown before. Spidey has super speed and precognition and can dodge hails of machine gun fire, lasers, etc. and get hit by slower moving enemies. It's due to either "Plot of the story", "Jobbing", "Lowballing", or "PIS". That's why this is a forum fight not a comic one.
So your using the Team at their best I take it? Does that mean I get to do the same for Thor?
I could really have some fun if I was using a Thor fighting to their best of his abilities.
If Wonder Woman is speed blitzing from the get go -which I don't think I've ever seen her do- then Thor tossing around some vortexes, or energy projection shouldn't be far fetched at all. I'd love to see them hit Thor with a blitz when his generating his "divine" lightning from every part of his body.
Let's not forget about his incredible reflexes.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusI'm not arguing they blitz from the get go. I'm arguing that they can avoid his attacks and hit him and keep hitting him.
So your using the Team at their best I take it? Does that mean I get to do the same for Thor?I could really have some fun if I was using a Thor fighting to their best of his abilities.
If Wonder Woman is speed blitzing from the get go -which I don't think I've ever seen her do- then Thor tossing around some vortexes, or energy projection shouldn't be far fetched at all. I'd love to see them hit Thor with a blitz when his generating his "divine" lightning from every part of his body.
Let's not forget about his incredible reflexes.
But assuming they do blitz (whether now or later) then Thor wouldn't be able to act even if his reflexes was infinite. Why? Because his speed is lacking. Infinite reflexes with no speed=fail.
SG alone would be on him like white on rice before he can even gesture to create a vortex. Please, these blitzes are not dumb bullets. She can change directions if they want, even to avoid attacks. She can instant appear behind Thor before he can turn around.