Bane vs ROTS Obi-Wan Kenobi

Started by truejedi3 pages

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Obi-wan's the beast here out of Bane and him? Come on.

And did you miss TPM where Maul Kicked Obiwan 3 stories down.

Or Season 3 episode 2 of CW where Greivous puches him to the floor, and he has to resort to using the Force on him.

Also in the ROTS novel and comic Dooku knocks Obiwan unconcious with a kick in the face. And before you say its not canon because it doesnt happen in the movie, im just pointing that out because it was probably in the script as well.

In any case we know Count Dooku kicked Anakin onto his butt, and dnt tell me Obiwan can take more punishment than Anakin.

You are agreeing with me then? because all of these things happened to kenobi and he kept coming back for more.

Kenobi can take infinite physical punishment is what we have learned from watching the movies.

(and yes, dropping the railing on kenobi is what took him out of that fight, not the FORCE CHOKE). Undeniably Canon.

Originally posted by truejedi
You are agreeing with me then? because all of these things happened to kenobi and he kept coming back for more.

Kenobi can take infinite physical punishment is what we have learned from watching the movies.

(and yes, dropping the railing on kenobi is what took him out of that fight, not the FORCE CHOKE). Undeniably Canon.

LOL! INfinite punishment?! What are you on about.. Greivous punched him in CW and he was down on the floor.. He had to defend himself with the Force..

Maul sent him flying with a kick.. Flying! And he was disarmed, lucky for Kenobi Qui-Gon was fairing better at that point.

And yes the Force Choke DID put Kenobi out of that fight. He was knocked out before the railing fell on him. Canon mate! Totally Canon! His Infinite Powers of taking punishment didnt help him there. Lol!

A railing is not a kick or a punch!

And obviously the kick and punch did not hurt him in the above situations, since in both instances, he got up and continued to fight. With grievous he was physically being held down, not hurt.

He was sent flying with a kick, sure, not hurt by it. He was knocked to the floor by Grievous, not hurt by him.

You need evidence where a kick or a punch hurt him. I'll save you the trouble: None exists.

Originally posted by truejedi
A railing is not a kick or a punch!

He was knocked out by the Force choke.

Originally posted by truejedi
And obviously the kick and punch did not hurt him in the above situations, since in both instances, he got up and continued to fight.

Not instantly. He was in serious danger when Maul Kicked him so hard his Lightsaber fell out of his hand. It took him a while to get back into the fight. And he shouts when getting hit. Id say that means he was hurt.

Originally posted by truejedi
With grievous he was physically being held down, not hurt.

Urm no.. Im talking about S.3 EP.2. Obi-wan is duelling Greivous, who punches him to the floor. He doesnt get back up when GG is approaching him, so has to use the Force on him.

Originally posted by truejedi
He was sent flying with a kick, sure, not hurt by it. He was knocked to the floor by Grievous, not hurt by him.

You need evidence where a kick or a punch hurt him. I'll save you the trouble: None exists.

LOL yeah im sure all the Grunting sounds and Landing on his butt was just Obi-wan was enjoying himself.

I reckon Kenobi wnt fair well against any Skilled Jedi/Sith whose a Physical beast, or a beast in the Force. Bane is both.

I miss rex. He would have told me to stop being sarcastic a long time ago. I liked the punishment. I respond well to.... discipline...

Yeah I really cant tell when your being sarcastic

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Yeah I really cant tell when your being sarcastic

General rule is: always.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
He was knocked out by the Force choke.

No DP, he wasn't. He was knocked unconcious by his impact with the railing, NOT by the choke.

Originally posted by Jinsoku Takai
No DP, he wasn't. He was knocked unconcious by his impact with the railing, NOT by the choke.

Just watched it again. Your right. It was on the initial impact, but he was already unconcious before Dooku brought down the railing on him.

Man the Count seriosuly kicked butt in that scene.

Originally posted by truejedi
I miss rex. He would have told me to stop being sarcastic a long time ago. I liked the punishment. I respond well to.... discipline...

I miss Rex as well... This place has gone to the shit hole since he left, I mean Nebs back and been around for a week now.

Originally posted by truejedi
Unfortunately ALL of that, ANYTHING he displays beyond what we see in the movies just became NON-CANON. Chee is not playing around.

Anything else for Bane the Ultimate, besides these exaggerated feats?

Not necessarily canon, which still leaves room for us to logically discuss what likely is an accurate window into the fictional world of Star Wars. And the fact that we're dealing with a book that doesn't face any of the limitations he stated when saying that, as well as the fact that everything we know about Bane, both behind the scenes, background wise, and as it's presented in the story are all realistically in line with the feats displayed, means that we can safely treat this as an accurate canon installment. It's not something like The Force Unleashed or the original CW cartoons where the makers went out of their way to display exaggerated displays of Force Use and acknowledged that that was what was being featured, feature characters from the movies displaying stuff not in line with what they would be able to do in the movies, and are of mediums (cartoon tv shorts, videogame with CGI cutscenes) that drove such innacuracies (cartoons displaying dazzling imagery and animations and an accompanying story in line with that, videogames featuring overpowered gameplay with small limitations and an accompanying story in line with that gameplay).

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Man the Count seriosuly kicked butt in that scene.

Hell yeah he did!

Originally posted by Jinsoku Takai
Hell yeah he did!

He tools them both! Watching that scene again has made me seriously reconsider the outcome of a one on one fight between Dooku and Anakin.

Which is strange, considering we all know how Anakin's abilities work.