Originally posted by Stoic
You seem to be downplaying the Hulk,
I haven't addressed him at all. lol
While we're on the subject of assuming ignorance, I'll assume that you don't know about the megarod's ability to increase gravitational forces. Maybe you forget that, in a forum fight, Barda is more likely to be displacing gravitons and moving energy from place to place with her motherbox.
Originally posted by Stoic
Yea because every opponent is going to stand there and let her whack the hell out of them. Thor's hammer can put a Kryptonian down too, after a few good shots. Let's also remember that not all Kryptonians are Superman.
lol the kryptonian he's talking about IS Superman. She nearly killed him.
Anyway, BFR is on here and Barda isn't above bfr if she can't scrape a win. That's exactly what she did to Lobo.
And a mind controlled Barda took on pre-crisis Supergirl and Mister Miracle at the same time. PRE-CRISIS KRYPTONIAN.
She's not getting one-hit KOd by a thunderclap. Chances are she booms him into space.
Originally posted by Stoic
Yea because every opponent is going to stand there and let her whack the hell out of them. Thor's hammer can put a Kryptonian down too, after a few good shots. Let's also remember that not all Kryptonians are Superman.
She hardly needs him standing still, Barda's a highly skilled combatant.
Barda has the firepower to take down people of his toughness class, no question. She has the skill to hit him, no question. How is that 'bfr only'?
Barda against the Furies on her own would lose and lose badly, because she will not heal fast enough to keep from being seriously injured, and in the end they would take her down.
I'm pretty sure she's beaten them before.
Originally posted by Konton
I haven't addressed him at all. lolWhile we're on the subject of assuming ignorance, I'll assume that you don't know about the megarod's ability to increase gravitational forces. Maybe you forget that, in a forum fight, Barda is more likely to be displacing gravitons and moving energy from place to place with her motherbox.
lol the kryptonian he's talking about IS Superman. She nearly killed him.
Anyway, BFR is on here and Barda isn't above bfr if she can't scrape a win. That's exactly what she did to Lobo.
And a mind controlled Barda took on pre-crisis Supergirl and Mister Miracle at the same time. PRE-CRISIS KRYPTONIAN.
She's not getting one-hit KOd by a thunderclap. Chances are she booms him into space.
Could Barda beat Superman if he were going all out to kill her? Stop playing, because you know that he was holding back against her. It's Barda not Doomsday.
Originally posted by Q99
She hardly needs him standing still, Barda's a highly skilled combatant.Barda has the firepower to take down people of his toughness class, no question. She has the skill to hit him, no question. How is that 'bfr only'?
I'm pretty sure she's beaten them before.
What's the full details of the Lobo fight? Tell the truth, or say no more.
Originally posted by Vorpal Ruin
After reading all these posts I have to go with Hulk for the win. Barda seems to be being overrated in this thread.
Not really. She's a herald-level fighter who has fought powerful herald-level foes on many occasions.
I don't know who this person that can't stand up to the Hulk that's being talked about is, but it's not Big Barda.
Maybe you're thinking of Little Barda, the Teen Titan?
Originally posted by Q99
Not really. She's a herald-level fighter who has fought powerful herald-level foes on many occasions.I don't know who this person that can't stand up to the Hulk that's being talked about is, but it's not Big Barda.
Maybe you're thinking of Little Barda, the Teen Titan?
Fighting only gets you so far against a guy that becomes more durable, faster, stronger, and heals up in the time that it takes him to be wounded. Next I'll hear that Barda can take Thor. She was never portrayed as being as powerful as you make it seem. True top tiers would destroy her if they were going all out to beat her... if there was something to fight that hard for.
If it were all about who fights better why does the Hulk stomp Wolverine? He can fight a lot better than the Hulk, the problem here is that the Hulk is so powerful in strength that an indirect attack can still hit, and knock over. This gives him the chance to capitalize. He's not a turtle you know, the guy has caught and passed jet fighter planes while leaping, and isn't a slouch when it comes to closing the distance while running.
Barda would eat fists if she went toe to toe with him. The Mega Rod does not hit as hard as Mjolnir, and the Hulk has eaten a bunch of hits from it. Should I launch a Barda vs Thor thread? I won't but I'm just saying... she's not in this class, I'd put her down there with She Hulk, Wonderman, Maxam... but the Hulk? Not on your life, not when he grows in power almost instantly.
Originally posted by Stoic
Fighting only gets you so far against a guy that becomes more durable, faster, stronger, and heals up in the time that it takes him to be wounded.
Except the differences aren't that big (and I doubt 'faster' too), and this level of offense has taken Hulk down many times, he won't heal back from these blasts that fast.
You're acting like she's not a class 100+ herald level fighter.
Next I'll hear that Barda can take Thor.
She'd put up a fight but Thor's stronger.
She was never portrayed as being as powerful as you make it seem.
Barda drove WW1m to her knees with blows from the megarod. So yes, yes she is. Has been for a long time.
If it were all about who fights better why does the Hulk stomp Wolverine? He can fight a lot better than the Hulk, the problem here is that the Hulk is so powerful in strength that an indirect attack can still hit, and knock over. This gives him the chance to capitalize. He's not a turtle you know, the guy has caught and passed jet fighter planes while leaping, and isn't a slouch when it comes to closing the distance while running.
Because Wolverine does not have near the raw power Barda does? I mean, yea, the claws are nice, but he's not going to be taking out kryptonians.
Make Wolverine class 100 and give him a megarod instead of claws and he'd win as well.
Barda would eat fists if she went toe to toe with him. The Mega Rod does not hit as hard as Mjolnir, and the Hulk has eaten a bunch of hits from it. Should I launch a Barda vs Thor thread? I won't but I'm just saying... she's not in this class, I'd put her down there with She Hulk, Wonderman, Maxam... but the Hulk? Not on your life, not when he grows in power almost instantly.
Barda's weaker than Thor, but still *very* powerful, mid-herald I'd say. The Megarod's not mjolnir, but it's still one of the hardest hitting weapons around.
She-Hulk or Wonderman? She would beat them down, they are definitely not in her league.
She Hulk < Supergirl < Barda, no question.
You really are underestimating her a lot. There's a big difference between "not Thor's level" and "would have problems with She-Hulk." Barda has long been a real powerhouse.
She Hulk is class 100+ She let Hercules beat her in an arm wrestling match, which showed as much. In actuality she's closer to Barda's level than you're putting on. Since this is a forum battle Thor going all out would dust Barda, as would the Hulk, beta rod or not.
The savage Hulk went toe to toe with Thor several times and many of which ended in a stalemate. Barda isn't stalemating an enraged going for broke Thor, neither would she win in similar fashion to the Hulk. The problem with the beta rod theory is that Barda, could lose her grip on it from a sufficient blow, whereas Thor can summon Mjolnir if he lost contact with it.
Are you seriously going to say that Barda's healing factor is on par with the Hulk's? So I guess she wasn't lying on the floor dead after her heart was ripped out, I guess she'd be fine if 80% of her flesh was blasted off, I assume you think that had she gotten her neck sliced to the wind pipe that she'd be still standing, and ready for battle. I guess that she would be just fine in a days time if she had every bone in her body broken. Barda loses here.
Originally posted by King CastleMaybe that works in "King Castle Land". durpalm
hulk has had his heart ripped out and has gone down due to it he has had his bones broken and again went down for fighting purposes in a forum match what is likely to put down barda would also put down hulk.neck breaks, heart rips and complete bone breakage
But for real, Hulk claps and Barda loses her skin. durslide
Originally posted by King Castle
hulk has had his heart ripped out and has gone down due to it he has had his bones broken and again went down for fighting purposes in a forum match what is likely to put down barda would also put down hulk.neck breaks, heart rips and complete bone breakage
Hulk has had what ripped out and gone down due to what?
Barda is at a huge strength disadvantage in this fight, need I remind you that he crushed Ultron's adamantium torso with a punch. What has Barda done that could top that in terms of raw punching power? Barda's going to break his neck now? What makes you think that he would allow her to do this?
Superman, Thor, the Hulk, Doomsday, Orion, Hercules (non jobbing), Gladiator, Blue Marve, Sentry... Barda has no business beating any of these guys, when they are written correctly, you haven't given any reason at all to suggest that she would beat any of them, if they took her seriously, and took the fight to her. She's not on the level. Namor is a better fighter than the Hulk, and has shown feats that would be in the thousands of tons range, but recently when the Hulk's defenders fought Rulk's Offenders, you see how effortlessly the savage Hulk restrained Namor. Barda is out of her league here.
The Grey Hulk had his heart ripped out and lived, Barda died.
Originally posted by Stoic
The savage Hulk went toe to toe with Thor several times and many of which ended in a stalemate. Barda isn't stalemating an enraged going for broke Thor, neither would she win in similar fashion to the Hulk. The problem with the beta rod theory is that Barda, could lose her grip on it from a sufficient blow, whereas Thor can summon Mjolnir if he lost contact with it.
Yea, Barda losing a grip on the mega rod is really likely 😉
It's not a throwing weapon like Mjolnir, it's either used to smack someone or fire a beam. How often does Thor lose his hammer when he's only using it to smack someone and not as a ranged attack? Almost never by my count.
Are you seriously going to say that Barda's healing factor is on par with the Hulk's?
Why are you acting like healing factor is the only form of defense? Sure, she has one, but she also has *armor*.
Barda loses here.
Nope, she gets plenty of wins here. "Barda doesn't have the exact same attributes as Hulk so Hulk wins (even though she has plenty of other attributes that Hulk doesn't have at all and has taken out people his level)" isn't a very convincing argument, sorry.
Barda has range, really strong range. She has a motherbox, flight, armor... she's going to get a good share of wins.
Originally posted by Q99
Yea, Barda losing a grip on the mega rod is really likely 😉It's not a throwing weapon like Mjolnir, it's either used to smack someone or fire a beam. How often does Thor lose his hammer when he's only using it to smack someone and not as a ranged attack? Almost never by my count, not unless a fight's already pretty much over.
Why are you acting like healing factor is the only form of defense? Sure, she has one, but she also has *armor*.
Nope, she gets plenty of wins here. "Barda doesn't have the exact same attributes as Hulk so Hulk wins (even though she has plenty of other attributes that Hulk doesn't have at all)" isn't a very convincing argument, sorry.
Barda has range, really strong range. She has a motherbox, flight, armor... she's going to get a good share of wins.
Thor has lost his grip on Mjolnir due to sufficient force dislodging it from his hand several times. What!!! now Barda has super kryptonian glue placed on her hand to keep the rod from being removed from her hand?
Armor??? The Hulk has crushed Ultron's torso. wth?