Dante draws from a couple of styles I guess.
Charlotte Debial (a user here on KMC, and a hardcore Dante/DMC fan) stated that he utilizes Jeet Kune Do; some of his moves are obviously inspired by Street Fighter Ansatsuken moves.
~ Kratos doesn't utilize Pankration throws afaik. He's more of a rip to shreds kind of guy, or if that doesn't work, he focuses on systematically disabling/weakening his opponent by going for the limbs or inflicting wounds.
Dante does have some skill in mixed martial arts, at least that's the way some of his moves that he uses when using beowulf or gilgamesh appear to be. for the most part though, he's pretty much just... well not unpredictable, but he can get pretty inventive with some of his moves.
I doubt Dante would go down within the first few seconds of the fight. DMC3 Dante was 19 years old and he could lift around 40 tons and could take building busting attacks. in fact all of the attacks he took through out DMC3 were capable of bringing down buildings and DMC2 Dante is leagues beyond DMC3 Dante so if he does end up losing, Kratos is in for a fight.
Dante is also faster too and has quite a lot of stamina so there is a chance that he could win this.
Dante draws from a couple of styles I guess.Charlotte Debial (a user here on KMC, and a hardcore Dante/DMC fan) stated that he utilizes Jeet Kune Do; some of his moves are obviously inspired by Street Fighter Ansatsuken moves.
~ Kratos doesn't utilize Pankration throws afaik. He's more of a rip to shreds kind of guy, or if that doesn't work, he focuses on systematically disabling/weaking his opponent.
Jeet Kune Do focuses on every range though. Grappling included. Dante lacks a grappling game.
Originally posted by danteiscool
Dante does have some skill in mixed martial arts, at least that's the way some of his moves that he uses when using beowulf or gilgamesh appear to be. for the most part though, he's pretty much just... well not unpredictable, but he can get pretty inventive with some of his moves.I doubt Dante would go down within the first few seconds of the fight. DMC3 Dante was 19 years old and he could lift around 40 tons and could take building busting attacks. in fact all of the attacks he took through out DMC3 were capable of bringing down buildings and DMC2 Dante is leagues beyond DMC3 Dante so if he does end up losing, Kratos is in for a fight.
Dante is also faster too and has quite a lot of stamina so there is a chance that he could win this.
Depends on how Dante goes about it. His best chance is to rain in as many hits as he can, from all possible angles.
Without Gilgamesh/Beowulf and DT, Dante's striking power won't be as high as dudes like Zeus and Hercules. Kratos has actually taken punches from those two, and they've not even slowed him down in the slightest.
See, Dante is extremely fast, no doubt. Problem is, that Kratos actually can react to him, and likely follow his movements as well. So, if Dante actually goes in for a hit/kick the second the fight starts, and Kratos blocks his attack (and grabs him), Dante will either be hit much harder than he has ever been in his life, or he'll get ripped in half.
~ Not one attack made against Dante in DMC3 was Building busting level. Beowulf's punch only made a small crater in the floor.
Originally posted by CosmicComet
Jeet Kune Do focuses on every range though. Grappling included. Dante lacks a grappling game.
I guess the striking portion of Jeet Kune Do then? I'm not very knowledgeable on Jeet Kune Do. You'll have to ask CD.
EDIT: Copypasta from the Dante Respect thread by Charlotte. I remembered it incorrectly.
"His Royal Guard stance and the philosophy behind it (redirection of energy, using the enemy's attacks against them) is likely a demonic adaptation of the Aikido style of martial arts. Most significantly, when fighting with Beowulf's Gauntlets and Greaves, Dante's stance and techniques seem to be a personalized Jeet Kune Do fighting system, with influences from western boxing in the straight punches and uppercuts, while the ax and side kicks appear to be Taekwondo. Vergil uses an identical stance and shares some of Dante's moves when equipping Beowulf, and seems eager to fight Dante with the gauntlets only a few minutes after acquiring them; thus, one can hypothesize that if Dante was taught Jeet Kune Do, it was done so alongside his older brother, who modified his own style with a emphasis on aerial kicks rather than Dante's preference for punches."
Most significantly, when fighting with Beowulf's Gauntlets and Greaves, Dante's stance and techniques seem to be a personalized Jeet Kune Do fighting system, with influences from western boxing in the straight punches and uppercuts, while the ax and side kicks appear to be Taekwondo. Vergil uses an identical stance and shares some of Dante's moves when equipping Beowulf, and seems eager to fight Dante with the gauntlets only a few minutes after acquiring them; thus, one can hypothesize that if Dante was taught Jeet Kune Do, it was done so alongside his older brother, who modified his own style with a emphasis on aerial kicks rather than Dante's preference for punches.
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Dante's advantage here is speed, but I'm not about to say he can dish out half of a tenth of a thousanth the amount of raw impact power as the likes of Cronos.
If all h2h feats are into account, Dante's best ones are only done with amps, and while Kratos too has two different weapons that amp his strikes, his bare hands have some more ground than what I can recall from Dante's; in DMC3, he punched a statue to let off some steam after waking up from his fight with Vergil, and the top broke apart after a couple seconds, though the statue itself was tiny compared to the Flame of Olympus' chamber, which began to collapse during Kratos and Zeus' first fight in GoWIII, not to necessarily say that they were the ones bringing it about, but if that were the case or anything close to the case, then it could be considered viable, but even if not, Kratos delivering so many body blows to Zeus that his final haymaker caused the pillar to crumble is still accountable.
While I say that Kratos winning within the first few seconds may or may not be a reach depending on the timeframe for Dante (who supposedley reached his peak circa DMC4-DMC2), I really see no possibility of Dante killing Kratos with only hand-to-hand. In all, I'd say while speed is, again, Dante's main advantage here, if Kratos grabs hold of him, then that'll be all she wrote.
I assume we're not counting any gloves or amps whatsoever in even the slightest liberty beyond their barehands whatsoever. Cuz give them their best ones and Kratos would shit-stomp nine ways till Sunday based on who he killed.
Originally posted by CosmicComet
Ah...I didn't even think of the other one.
Mostly cuz either one in this thread would rape that Dante.
How does the power of Hope help? Sure it let Kratos beat down Zeus' incarnation of Fear, but beating a god to death with his bare hands is something that he had already done without hope.
Not sure how Dante would fare off against a guy that matched Hercules and Zeus in brute force as well as resisted being crushed by Atlas.