World Breaker Hulk vs Superboy Prime · Comic Book 'Versus' Forum

carver9 Senior Member

Originally posted by Uriel005
First of all for strength Prime is stronger than silver age and golden age supermen put together. i.e. solar system destroying with a sneeze. Fought the remnants of the green lantern corps that he crippled, crashed through a red sun depowering him and still beat silver age supes to death before losing his strength. Beat about 2 universes worth of heroes to death and eventually breaks free from the biggest max security prison in the universe to rinse and repeat... Call it PIS if you want but considering that his only feats tend to be utterly crippling most of the DC universe I'm gonna go with him being pretty damn strong.

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OneDumbG0 Find Your Own Fire

Originally posted by Uriel005
First of all for strength Prime is stronger than silver age and golden age supermen put together. i.e. solar system destroying with a sneeze.

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iceman24567 Senior Member

Originally posted by carver9
What does moving a planet have to do with being stronger than this version of Hulk. A weaker version of this Hulk held together the planet sakaar which is TWICE the size of earth with nothing but strength alone. That feat>>>>every feat that you just mentioned. Prime didnt make the Guardians his b****... one of them committed suicide to no avail and the other wasnt really defeated the way you are putting it.
Defeating Zom strange>defeating a guardian. What top tier has Prime actually beaten under physical strength without some type of amp?

Beating jobberStrange is his best battle feat and he got lucky they watered that version of Strange down

The Nuul Senior Member

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The Flashes had to BFR SBP but somehow Zom/strange didnt want to BFR and went H2H with WWH. CIS for the sake of the plot, so PIS. SBP came back once BFRed, WWH has no way too.

And again....

WWH or WBH still fights metas and some heralds, Prime fights groups of heralds while punching the shit outta them.

Lets see if WBH or WWH can fight Thor, Herc, Glads, BRB, BB, SS and other heralds all at the same time.

Colossus-Big C Restricted

Originally posted by Uriel005
First of all for strength Prime is stronger than silver age and golden age supermen put together. i.e. solar system destroying with a sneeze. Fought the remnants of the green lantern corps that he crippled, crashed through a red sun depowering him and still beat silver age supes to death before losing his strength. Beat about 2 universes worth of heroes to death and eventually breaks free from the biggest max security prison in the universe to rinse and repeat... Call it PIS if you want but considering that his only feats tend to be utterly crippling most of the DC universe I'm gonna go with him being pretty damn strong.

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Colossus-Big C Restricted

Originally posted by The Nuul
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The Flashes had to BFR SBP but somehow Zom/strange didnt want to BFR and went H2H with WWH. CIS for the sake of the plot, so PIS. SBP came back once BFRed, WWH has no way too.
And again....
WWH or WBH still fights metas and some heralds, prime fights groups of heralds while punching the shit outta.
Lets see if WBH or WWH can fight Thor, Herc, Glads, BRB, BB, SS and other heralds all at the same time.

alot of these guys have vast energy manipulation that superman doesnt have.

iceman24567 Senior Member

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
alot of these guys have vast energy manipulation that superman doesnt have.

That has nothing to do with his point 😬

janus77 Banana Genius

if it descends to h2h, Hulk (WWH/WBH) would maul him, eventually.

hell, even Kang is scared of Maestro Hulk!

seriously though, Hulk IS that strong (and more). Rulk using just a fraction of that power, murdered OdinForce Thor, GrandMaster and almost KO'd a Watcher ... the same Rulk that could not get up from a ThunderClap.

I don't get why people can accept bizarre feats of strength from prime and not from Hulk (who has a longer track record of absurd strength). Hulk punched through The Time Stream (Marvel's time barriers), that was regular old Savage Hulk...

h1a8 Senior Member

Originally posted by carver9
In regards to Prime punching through dimentions...regular Hulk has similar feats so I'm not that impressed by that feat. Basing it off PURE power WBH is just on another level if you ask me. If a guy cant even tap on the ground while walking due to him crushing the planet, his physical strength is on another level, in a different tier, etc...
I'm not calling Prime weak but he isnt WBH strong. Can Prime pull some wins, hell yeah, through bfring but if he fought H2H with this version of Hulk, he is getting his head taken off and knowing Prime, he loves to go fist cuffs.
This version of Hulk is just too powerful for Prime to take on and Prime during that entire series never faced ANYONE on this type of level physically.

First of all one has to be more powerful to one shot a planet to be considered more powerful than than Prime. Second, WBH stepping feat is a non feat since he wasn't shaking the entire planet (something Thor has done) but only a small portion of the U.S.; thus it doesn't mean he had the power to break the world in one blow. Hyperbole has always existed in comics. Third, prime is far too fast to let Hulk even touch him. Hulk would be a PURE ABSOLUTE STATUE to him. Fourth, Hulk never has punched through dimensions under his OWN power. There was a dimension already provided for Hulk. SBP, with only pure power and no dimensions provided in front of him, punched so hard it shattered dimensions. Hulk can't do this. Fifth, moving a planet a considerable distance in a considerable time takes WAY MORE force than to destroy it with 1 blow. For example, accelerating only 1/3 of the mass of the Earth 1 mi per s^2 yields over 50 Earth weights of force. Sixth, SBP can bfr him for a clear 10/10. Finally, SBP HV went through Superman like he was a ghost, easier than a hot knife through butter. SBP could kill WWH easily by melting his whole brain instantly.

h1a8 Senior Member

Originally posted by janus77
if it descends to h2h, Hulk (WWH/WBH) would maul him, eventually.
hell, even Kang is scared of Maestro Hulk!
seriously though, Hulk IS that strong (and more). Rulk using just a fraction of that power, murdered OdinForce Thor, GrandMaster and almost KO'd a Watcher ... the same Rulk that could not get up from a ThunderClap.
I don't get why people can accept bizarre feats of strength from prime and not from Hulk (who has a longer track record of absurd strength). Hulk punched through The Time Stream (Marvel's time barriers), that was regular old Savage Hulk...

Many bad debaters always argue the faulty strength principle. "X is stronger than Y thus X wins." Illogical it is. SBP has so many options to win. BFR, brain melt, combo to ko, decapitation, etc.

Second, SBP is far stronger based off feats.

Third, Rulk had the ENTIRE power of WBH since ALL the energy was absorbed from WBH reducing him completely to Banner.

Finally, Hulk never shattered dimensions that wasn't already provided in front of him. His feat is equivalent to Thor and Herc punching that dimension that was already provided in the story for them.

Omega Vision Face Flowed Into Her Eyes

Originally posted by janus77
if it descends to h2h, Hulk (WWH/WBH) would maul him, eventually.
hell, even Kang is scared of Maestro Hulk!
seriously though, Hulk IS that strong (and more). Rulk using just a fraction of that power, murdered OdinForce Thor, GrandMaster and almost KO'd a Watcher ... the same Rulk that could not get up from a ThunderClap.
I don't get why people can accept bizarre feats of strength from prime and not from Hulk (who has a longer track record of absurd strength). Hulk punched through The Time Stream (Marvel's time barriers), that was regular old Savage Hulk...

That wasn't with a fraction of WBH's power, that was with the full Loeb Force.

iceman24567 Senior Member

Originally posted by janus77
if it descends to h2h, Hulk (WWH/WBH) would maul him, eventually.
hell, even Kang is scared of Maestro Hulk!
seriously though, Hulk IS that strong (and more). Rulk using just a fraction of that power, murdered OdinForce Thor, GrandMaster and almost KO'd a Watcher ... the same Rulk that could not get up from a ThunderClap.
I don't get why people can accept bizarre feats of strength from prime and not from Hulk (who has a longer track record of absurd strength). Hulk punched through The Time Stream (Marvel's time barriers), that was regular old Savage Hulk...

Maul somebody vastly faster, more durable and just as strong if not stronger? You guys and your strength beats all argument 😆

GGS Senior Member

Has the Hulk even been thrown into a sun and come out the other end still alive? I know he did that whole swimming in space craziness.

The Nuul Senior Member

I love this unlimted strength thing that trumps all other powers.

Then Hulk > LT. Nothing can stop him because hes yells and smashes a lot.

Omega Vision Face Flowed Into Her Eyes

Originally posted by iceman24567
Maul somebody vastly faster, more durable and just as strong if not stronger? You guys and your strength beats all argument 😆

Originally posted by The Nuul
I love this unlimted strength thing that trumps all other powers.
Then Hulk > LT. Nothing can stop him because hes yells and smashes a lot.

Originally posted by GGS
Has the Hulk even been thrown into a sun and come out the other end still alive? I know he did that whole swimming in space craziness.

durhulk

The Nuul Senior Member

Originally posted by iceman24567
Maul somebody vastly faster, more durable and just as strong if not stronger? You guys and your strength beats all argument 😆

Its the same as Shoko's and H1's argument for Supes type characters, Combo to KO >> all. Supes > LT and Hulk > LT.

Nihilist Senior Member

Primes wins.

NemeBro Senior Member

Originally posted by carver9
What does moving a planet have to do with being stronger than this version of Hulk. A weaker version of this Hulk held together the planet sakaar which is TWICE the size of earth with nothing but strength alone. That feat>>>>every feat that you just mentioned. Prime didnt make the Guardians his b****... one of them committed suicide to no avail and the other wasnt really defeated the way you are putting it.
Defeating Zom strange>defeating a guardian. What top tier has Prime actually beaten under physical strength without some type of amp?

Well it has to do with having the physical might to PUSH A ****ING PLANET OUT OF ORBIT AND COLLIDE IT WITH OTHER PLANETS. 😐 Don't you lie to me boy, I read Planet Hulk, I actually own it, he manipulated a couple of tectonic plates, aka not holding the entire planet together. And yeah, a Guardian had to kill itself to BFR Prime (Fun fact, he was trying to kill him), and I am pretty sure Prime easily killed a Guardian before that.

JobberStrange can go die, oh, and you ignore that Dr. Strange was pwning Hulk before CIS kicked in and he stopped his assault because of t3h little people getting drawn into it. What top-tiers? Well he fights multiple top-tiers at once. 😐

carver9 Senior Member

Originally posted by The Nuul
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The Flashes had to BFR SBP but somehow Zom/strange didnt want to BFR and went H2H with WWH. CIS for the sake of the plot, so PIS. SBP came back once BFRed, WWH has no way too.
And again....
WWH or WBH still fights metas and some heralds, Prime fights groups of heralds while punching the shit outta them.
Lets see if WBH or WWH can fight Thor, Herc, Glads, BRB, BB, SS and other heralds all at the same time.

What are you talking about?

Numerous of people have fought top tiers in groups and won but that doesnt mean that they are more powerful than this version of Hulk.

Grundy has done it, Despero has done it, Black Adam has done it, the General has done it, Shaggy man, hell, Promethius has soloed the entire JLA and show me Prime busting up and defeating a top grade team. Hell, Konvikt showing against the jla is>>Prime... if you actually looked on panel, Prime ran from Powergirls heat vision.

Now show me Prime taking on a group of Heralds and winning... not him throwing them off of him, I'm talking about him taking down a team that consist of people like Superman, Wonder Woman, etc...

carver9 Senior Member

Originally posted by NemeBro
Well it has to do with having the physical might to PUSH A ****ING PLANET OUT OF ORBIT AND COLLIDE IT WITH OTHER PLANETS. 😐 Don't you lie to me boy, I read Planet Hulk, I actually own it, he manipulated a couple of tectonic plates, aka not holding the entire planet together. And yeah, a Guardian had to kill itself to BFR Prime (Fun fact, he was trying to kill him), and I am pretty sure Prime easily killed a Guardian before that.
JobberStrange can go die, oh, and you ignore that Dr. Strange was pwning Hulk before CIS kicked in and he stopped his assault because of t3h little people getting drawn into it. What top-tiers? Well he fights multiple top-tiers at once. 😐

LOL... you are cool with me Nemebro...

Back on topic. I wasnt impressed by Prime showing against the Guardians. WWH held the planet saakar together; yes, he shifted some plates but he also used physical strength to keep the planet together.

You do know what PUSHING something requires right? Its not just strength.

By the way, StrangeZom snuck attack hulk and Hulk snuck attacked him back but strange didnt get up.