Who can lift Thor's hammer?

Started by Q9910 pages
Wonderwoman was starting to become aloof in Infinite Crisis, but while she switched, she did kill Maxwell Lord. So I think she wouldn't be worthy either.

I don't think that'd disqualify her, though maybe. It was a decision to save a friend taken at harsh personal cost.

Thor has probably had to make tough choices in the past.

( the 'aloof' thing was pretty much an informed attributed anyway, in her book or JLA she didn't seem to act any different)

WW killing maxwell lord wouldnt disqualify her she is a warrior and killing is part of the job description. Thor has killed mortals in past to protect villages or b/c he was mad at the warriors and failure to live up to a noble warrior code.

Honestly the Maxwell Lord incident would probably be a gray area in the Odin's eye. It wouldn't hurt or help Diana's chances any, which considering her character history and traits are pretty damn good.

look how many planets BRB had to destroy b4 he was unworthy to lift storm breaker

Wonder Woman killing Max doesn't decrease her chances of being worthy. Thor would have snapped Max's neck without hesitation if he knew he had no choice.

Originally posted by zopzop
I think the fact that he halted it's flight and was able to hold it for a second means that the writers were trying to say : Zeus is <= Odin in power.

What issue was this? Cause every time I've seen those two go at it, Thor made Mephisto his b--ch. Was Mephisto amped?

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I don't think that scene proves his equal to Odin. He simply stopped it in it's flight and then halted it's return for a moment like Thor described it.

I know Thor made Mephisto his b*tch at least once. I think he did extremely well a second time as well. He encountered Mephisto a third time and halted his plans when he defeated Darkoth.

Originally posted by zopzop
Thanks! But it looks like an illusion to me. Why destroy, then recreate it, then hurl it back to Thor? Look how he "summons" Odin to talk to Thor.

If, and that's a big IF, that's not an illusion, Mephisto is no joke.

Yea, I've seen people argue it was an illusion. Just doesn't make sense based on all of Mephisto's interaction's with Thor/Odin that I've seen. I doubt even Odin could so easily destroy and recreate Mjolnir.

mephisto is abstract level in his realm, he controls every aspect in i

Abstract level? Lol, no.

Thor's done very well against Hell Lords whether it's Hela, Mephisto or Pluto.

^ Abstract level. He's fought Galactus evenly. He's made classic Strange look like a bug. He's just that powerful.

And other than Mjolnir-bearers like BRB and Masterson, nobody else but Cap lifts it.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Abstract level? Lol, no.

Thor's done very well against Hell Lords whether it's Hela, Mephisto or Pluto.

thor can win against any character if the plot needs him too

seth, and pluto all have skyfather level feats but lose to thor
hela doesnt have high end feats though

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Abstract level. He's fought Galactus evenly. He's made classic Strange look like a bug. He's just that powerful.

And other than Mjolnir-bearers like BRB and Masterson, nobody else but Cap lifts it.

Yet he had to run away from Atum 🙂

^ Correction: He got eaten by Atum. uhuh

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... Mephisto jobbed. ahah

He and hella ran like bitches.

Track runners can outrun Mephisto in his own realm.

Originally posted by amnesia
Yet he had to run away from Atum 🙂
what does that mean?
atum eats magical beings, mephisto is no exception

Originally posted by amnesia
He and hella ran like bitches.

Track runners can outrun Mephisto in his own realm.

IIRC, Ereshkigal ran with Hela. Mephisto got eaten.

No. You got it wrong, they didn't get away, but they still ran.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Abstract level. He's fought Galactus evenly. He's made classic Strange look like a bug. He's just that powerful.

And other than Mjolnir-bearers like BRB and Masterson, nobody else but Cap lifts it.

Impressive, but from what I've seen, I would place Mephisto below Odin in power or around his level at best. And yes, that's taking into account his fight with Galactus. Matching Galactus for a few pages isn't anything Odin can't -couldn't- accomplish. At least, that's what I recall happening.

In his Thor appearances, I'd say he ranges from Thor level to near or around Odin level - or at least so he claims. IRCC, he said in his realm amongst the flames, his power rivals Odin. On the other hand, I'm preetttyyyy sure Mephisto has admitted his inferiority to Odin.

What issue did the Strange battle happen out of curiosity? Was Strange without using any artifacts?

I don't think Masterson was worthy of Mjolnir. At least not in the same sense as Bill was. He could only wield it due to his connection to Thor as I recall.

the living tribunal stops by mephisto's realm from time to time

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
thor can win against any character if the plot needs him too

seth, and pluto all have skyfather level feats but lose to thor
hela doesnt have high end feats though

Thor > Your favorite hero

IRCC she had a nice little scene that implies she could replicate what Mephisto did with Spider-Man.

From what I've seen of their interactions, Mephisto and Hela seem to treat each other as peers. At least in status if not power. A war between the two and their forces would have caused Omniversal Armageddon or something similar.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Thor > Your favorite hero

IRCC she had a nice little scene that implies she could replicate what Mephisto did with Spider-Man.

From what I've seen of their interactions, Mephisto and Hela seem to treat each other as peers. At least in status if not power. A war between the two and their forces would have caused Omniversal Armageddon or something similar.


Yeah IIRC when Mephisto and Hela were going to war their forces were so even that just one soul (Thor's) added to Hela's army would have tipped the scales in her favor and allowed her to defeat Mephisto.

Well, it is Thor's soul. It's pretty powerful. I like this scene personally:
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/DefeatsMephisto9.jpg

Hela, and Mephisto really seem to want Thor's soul something fierce. Seriously, she was willing to annihilate her everything -including her realm- if it meant stopping Mephisto from getting Thor's soul.