Cross Genre Match #12: Rock Lee vs Karate Kid

Originally posted by cdtm
Charged at Nemesis Kid and knocked him aside, for one.

And when he was dodging Mon El's laser vision, he was flying around.

That isnt light speed.

Let me help everyone out so that you all can stop using KK vs Kryptonians as an argument.

I hope everyone know who Shadow Dragon is...

Shadow Dragon who is also an enhanced martial artist. Well, him and Superman ended up dualing it out and Superman was getting blitzed the entire time. After the fight (which Superman lost), Superman ADMITTED that Shadow Dragon was too fast for him and that was the reason he was unable to beat him.

Lady Shiva ended up fighting this same person. Lady Shiva is a peak human... and she STOMPED Shadow Dragon; the same person that beat Superrman. Now we have to look at two instances, Lady Shiva is either>Superman like you all are trying to make KK out to be or it was a skill thing that made Lady Shiva handle someone Superman was unable to handle and THAT is the reason KK does so well against kryptonians or any other enhanced person that he has fought.

Shiva vs SD was PIS, imo.

Superman commented on his speed, and Shadow Dragon himself commented how the speeds of the suit were taxing his body. Even if you don't believe he was light speed, he should still be well above Shiva's level, if merely moving around at the suits speeds iis hurting him..

And besides, it's not like Superman himself hasn't had problems with street levelers. Jim Harper, the Golden Guardian gave him a tough time, as did Deathstroke. All clear PIS.

KK wins 10/10

Originally posted by cdtm
Shiva vs SD was PIS, imo.

Superman commented on his speed, and Shadow Dragon himself commented how the speeds of the suit were taxing his body. Even if you don't believe he was light speed, he should still be well above Shiva's level, if merely moving around at the suits speeds iis hurting him..

And besides, it's not like Superman himself hasn't had problems with street levelers. Jim Harper, the Golden Guardian gave him a tough time, as did Deathstroke. All clear PIS.

You have helped my point with street levelers vs super humans argument. Street levelers in comic book writers minds are God like. Example... look at deathstroke fight against Kalibak... Kalibak was getting blitzed the entire time... Kalibak couldnt even land a solid lick on Deathstroke. Deathstroke showings against Kalibak is better than any showing Superman or any other superhuman has had against him (He beat him in one panel).

Originally posted by carver9
You have helped my point with street levelers vs super humans argument. Street levelers in comic book writers minds are God like. Example... look at deathstroke fight against Kalibak... Kalibak was getting blitzed the entire time... Kalibak couldnt even land a solid lick on Deathstroke. Deathstroke showings against Kalibak is better than any showing Superman or any other superhuman has had against him (He beat him in one panel).

Originally posted by Badabing
Deathstroke is not a street leveler as Bats or Cap. All of his attributes are enhanced to low or mid meta levels. Hell, he just beat Lex in his power suit.

I agree but he is still a street leveler and again, he has performed better than almost any super human vs other super humans and I can say the same for bats. Bats showings against Grundy is far better than Supes or Wonder Woman.

Street levelers in comics just perform better than a lot of people depending on the circumstances. Thor would face almost any super human without thinking twice but he hesitated at the thought of fighting Wolverine. Then we have bats fighting Etrigan, fighting lobo, Grundy, punching out a GL, etc...

Then we have Batman with Superman powers destroying everybody coming his way but when he face nightwing, nightwing is blitzing him throughout the fight (and again, he had Supermans powers).

Originally posted by carver9
I agree but he is still a street leveler and again, he has performed better than almost any super human vs other super humans and I can say the same for bats. Bats showings against Grundy is far better than Supes or Wonder Woman.

Street levelers in comics just perform better than a lot of people depending on the circumstances. Thor would face almost any super human without thinking twice but he hesitated at the thought of fighting Wolverine. Then we have bats fighting Etrigan, fighting lobo, Grundy, punching out a GL, etc...

Then we have Batman with Superman powers destroying everybody coming his way but when he face nightwing, nightwing is blitzing him throughout the fight (and again, he had Supermans powers).

Originally posted by Badabing
Okay, I misinterpreted. I'll leave PR out of this...for now. biscuits

LOL... Bada, you are KMC. 💃

DS also handed Luthor in his armor his butt.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
DS also handed Luthor in his armor his butt.

And this is the same Luthor that has pulled a win against Superman and has good showings in his armor against Supes but Deathstroke beat him like it was nothing.

Going by powers and abilities Rock Lee stomps in this fight.

Originally posted by carver9
Going by powers and abilities Rock Lee stomps in this fight.

Going by showings -the only thing that counts-, Lee goes down like a chump.

Originally posted by Bentley
Going by showings -the only thing that counts-, Lee goes down like a chump.

I agree with the showing comment but power wise Rock Lee>KK. Martial Artist only does so well due to their skills. Everything that KK has done, almost every street level character has that under their belts but again, every time they face someone with skill they either lose or barely win.

Deathstroke as an example. He has fought almost every being in DCU and his showings are amazing but he STRUGGLES and get his head crushed in by Batman and Nightwing and the same would happen with Rock Lee. If he fought Rock Lee, he would get STOMPED.

We'll I see where you come from, but that kind of argument has never been settled as a messure to decide who wins a versus match. If you think about it, it's kind of close to ABC logic, since for example, you can show DS beating Aquaman, Batman giving DS a work out and Batman being punked by Aquaman; the logic you mention would apply but it would be very close to give the same false positives than ABC logic -just that instead of using just two characters you use a group of them-.

Most of all, your argument should become more established point in the Comic matches before applying this to Mixed Matches which present much more difficulties, and pose many more variables to assert generalities.

Lee loses carvers anime wanking is at a all time high

Originally posted by carver9
And this is the same Luthor that has pulled a win against Superman and has good showings in his armor against Supes but Deathstroke beat him like it was nothing.

Going by powers and abilities Rock Lee stomps in this fight.

sore loser?

Originally posted by psycho gundam

...sorry guys. But thats not rock lee

Its Maito Gai
Even though he got the pose backwards. Lee doesn't pose or wear that green jacket open like that

YouTube video

most naruto AMVs Suck. But this is one of my favorite AMVs.

Just a cool video of the Rock Lee vs Gaara.