Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
both of these guys have taken blows from people stronger than thor without damage
colossus took a couple of blows from an enraged WWH and took some from a fully confident gladiator and juggernaut
thing has took blows from hulk juggs champion and other uber peopble without damagethor wins but i would take alot of effort to put them down in a pure mele
LOL, what a joke. Thor's stronger than all of those people except maybe WWH.
Thor wins 10/10. Not only is he considerably stronger than the other two and just as durable. But he has more combat experience and its canon that he doesnt need Mjolnir to control the weather. Colossus has been hurt on panel by lightning more than once. Once by Storm and the other time by a freak storm caused by Magneto messing with the magnetic poles. With a combination of greater strength and weather powers Thor is way too much for either of his opponents.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus😐
No, he carriers around the hammer because it's an incredibly powerful weapon.But yea, Mjolnir is arguably a very shitty melee weapon compared to the advantage a war hammer would give a man in the real world.
Mjolnir gives him a big advantage even if your only swinning it.If not superman>Thor.
I think this goes to how high Thor's stamina is depicted....in some stories he has fought for months without rest and some he is visablely tired in what seems to be mere minuets. If Thor has far greater stamina than "mortals" as should be the case then I see Thor taking a majority. He has survived punches from Surtur and come back full tilt and I don't see these guys delivering that level of damage ever.
Originally posted by Black bolt z
😐Mjolnir gives him a big advantage even if your only swinning it.If not superman>Thor.
What big advantage? Most of the time it's written as a substitute for his fist. Even Stan Lee, who was really hung up on the power and might of Mjolnir didn't write it as giving Thor a big advantage. With it, he edged out the Hulk. Without it, he stalemated him. That's summed the difference he saw pretty well I think.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusI have to side with Rage but perhaps can explain it a little better.
What big advantage? Most of the time it's written as a substitute for his fist. Even Stan Lee, who was really hung up on the power and might of Mjolnir didn't write it as giving Thor a big advantage. With it, he edged out the Hulk. Without it, he stalemated him. That's summed the difference he saw pretty well I think.
Thor could/can use Mjolnir to increase damage more then his fist could do however Thor knowing Mjolnir powers/potenital often withstrains himself when using Mjolnir to his full advantage. Thus his fist for the must would inflict the same about of blunt force trama.
There was a scan of Thor admitting to not using Mjolnir too the fullest when in battle some where let me see if i can find it.
mjonlir is old and yes he has bn shattered slice and "broken" but, look under what conditions it is a gateway of near limitless power and when he has bn broken it is under severe duress..
WWH managed to bend Colossus and Mjonlir has bn under higher stress then what WWH could hope to summon.
also vibranium isnt unnbreakable it has never bn coined that way and cap's shield is not your average vibranium..
Vibranium is barely above steel nothing more or less and it has bn broken and shattered in the past by less... one example was wolverine bone claw shredding it, another is Sabe's claws on BP's vibe suit.. lastly it was done by Reed with an energy blast..