Thor vs. Vulcan

Originally posted by amnesia
I love how your only argument is to stick your fingers in your ears going "lalalala".

Originally posted by DarkOdin
LOL Thro has one of the highest durability in the high herald ranks Hell Surfer, BRB THor hav plenty of showing agaisnt cosmics.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Hahaha, your still on this bullshit stance? How short is your memory? Did I not already prove to you that Black Bolt's Master Blow wouldn't do shit to Thor?

The Master Blow is a one time attack and it's equivalent to the punch of the Hulk at best from what I've seen. Thor would tank it and follow up by bashing Black Bolt's face in if he uses the Master Blow. It's the shittiest ultimate attack I've probably seen.

Black Bolt's energy attacks. Thor will absorb them.

Besides the God Blast Thor doesn't have amazing feats? GTFO.

Who gets to dictate what's PIS? Black Bolt's scream is most likely around planetary destruction level. Thor's taken far more powerful attacks and kept on coming. Blasts from the Odin Force is one of those scenes.

10x:
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/AbsorbsKangEnergy1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/AbsorbsKangEnergy2.jpg

100x:
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/AbsorbThanosEnergy1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/AbsorbThanosEnergy2.jpg

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Absorbing energy directly from an individual is more impressive than absorbing some generic blast. And yes, Thor has absorbed attacks directly. Hint: Scroll above to the scans I posted.

And like I said it was theoretical.But as far as ultimate attacks yes...the MB sucks 🙁.But the the voice is awesome.

Like I said before I have yet to see a scan of thor abosrbing an attack.Energy from a person and inamnimate object yes but not an attack.

Sorry.What I meant is without the godblast or fighting cosmics which relalistically would one shot him he doesn't have feats that are quite at that level.Yes he has amazing feats.They all do.Just not any others that put him at this level.

But like I said theres no way to quantify his scream.Is it able to bust a planet every second?Keep screaming for a minute?What happens if he gets within 2 feet from thor and screams?

Thanks.I saw both those scans before but I missed the times 10 and 100.I mostly just looked at the pictures.

No what I meant is if say...thanos or surfer shot an energy blast at him could he absorb it right out of the air?

Originally posted by Black bolt z
No...you didn't...

Yes....I did. I'm going to do this one more time. Pay attention.

These are the three instances the Master Blow has been used:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v155/thorion/blackbolt/fkarn10.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v155/thorion/blackbolt/ikaris2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v155/thorion/blackbolt/reek14.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v155/thorion/blackbolt/reek15.jpg
Thanks to Thorion.

It's safe to say that it's the equivalent to a punch from a mid to high end Class 100. The Master Blow? At best it knocks Thor off his feet.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
And like I said it was theoretical.But as far as ultimate attacks yes...the MB sucks 🙁.But the the voice is awesome.

It was pointless to bring up then.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Like I said before I have yet to see a scan of thor abosrbing an attack.Energy from a person and inamnimate object yes but not an attack.

What did I just post? Thanos blasted Thor with energy. Thor absorbed said energy.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Sorry.What I meant is without the godblast or fighting cosmics which relalistically would one shot him he doesn't have feats that are quite at that level.Yes he has amazing feats.They all do.Just not any others that put him at this level.

facepalm

Translation: If we ignore Thor's high end feats that are on a Cosmic level, he doesn't have feats that are on a Cosmic level.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
But like I said theres no way to quantify his scream.Is it able to bust a planet every second?Keep screaming for a minute?What happens if he gets within 2 feet from thor and screams?

There is. We can't quantify it to a specific accuracy but we can determine on what level it is based on Black Bolt's appearances. It's probably around or a somewhat above a planet busting attack in terms of power. How it works would more than likely simply depend on the writer.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Thanks.I saw both those scans before but I missed the times 10 and 100.I mostly just looked at the pictures.

Mostly looking at the pictures? That would explain a lot actually.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
No what I meant is if say...thanos or surfer shot an energy blast at him could he absorb it right out of the air?

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What do you think he just did against Thanos? If this doesn't satisfy you, I don't know what will:
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThorvsSilverSurfer1fight7.jpg

There are more examples, but you asked for Surfer.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Yes....I did. I'm going to do this one more time. Pay attention.

These are the three instances the Master Blow has been used:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v155/thorion/blackbolt/fkarn10.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v155/thorion/blackbolt/ikaris2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v155/thorion/blackbolt/reek14.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v155/thorion/blackbolt/reek15.jpg
Thanks to Thorion.

It's safe to say that it's the equivalent to a punch from a mid to high end Class 100. The Master Blow? At best it knocks Thor off his feet.

It was pointless to bring up then.

What did I just post? Thanos blasted Thor with energy. Thor absorbed said energy.

facepalm

Translation: If we ignore Thor's high end feats that are on a Cosmic level, he doesn't have feats that are on a Cosmic level.

There is. We can't quantify it to a specific accuracy but we can determine on what level it is based on Black Bolt's appearances. It's probably around or a somewhat above a planet busting attack in terms of power. How it works would more than likely simply depend on the writer.

Mostly looking at the pictures? That would explain a lot actually.

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What do you think he just did against Thanos? If this doesn't satisfy you, I don't know what will:
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/ThorvsSilverSurfer1fight7.jpg

There are more examples, but you asked for Surfer.

So yes if it made thing feel like he was just beat up by hulk then yes its going to do something to thor.

Was it an energy blast?It looked like thors own energy.Not very well illustrated.And don't you think it could have been a hyperbole?Not saying it nessicarily was but its a good chance.

No.Its the same reason I call voids MM feat PIS.Because he has those few high feats and besides that even his high showings don't begin to put him on the level of beating or tanking blasts from cosmics.

Exactly.Although black bolt probably wouldn't scream in a non CIS on fight.Hes done it once...sadly.

The first few times I saw it.When you provided those to me before they were about absorbing energy.Not absorbing and redirecting.

I saw it there.And what comic was that?I'd like to read it.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
So
1: Made thing feel like he was beat up by the hulk
2: A weaker master blow still knocked down and stunned whoever was carrying him.
3:Not sure what the explosion was but it stopped whoever he was fighting.

So yes if it made thing feel like he was just beat up by hulk then yes its going to do something to thor.

It was less than fully effective -so maybe around 90% in power- and all it did was knock down Ikaris. Thor's far beyond Ikaris physically. He was fighting some Kree Eternal I believe who was going to commit suicide by exploding. Black Bolt used the Master Blow to send him flying out of the blue area of the moon.

If Thing was beat up by the Hulk, he wouldn't have been standing on his feet. The Master Blow at best rocked the Thing. The Master Blow at best knocks Thor off his feet. That's me being generious. I don't think it would do even that as Thing took it square in the chest.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Was it an energy blast?It looked like thors own energy.Not very well illustrated.And don't you think it could have been a hyperbole?Not saying it nessicarily was but its a good chance.

Yes, it was an energy blast. Thanos unleashed energy from his eyes -and possibly from his body- which Thor absorbed directly into his hammer.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
No.Its the same reason I call voids MM feat PIS.

You don't seem to understand that you are not the one who dictates how powerful a character is. The Void has never shown how powerful he truly is. Especially Bendis' Sentry. So you don't have some sort of consistent history to drawn on. Molecule Man has been on a downhill slope for a while now. Void beating Molecule Man isn't PIS. It's just a high end feat. At worst an outlier.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Because he has those few high feats and besides that even his high showings don't begin to put him on the level of beating or tanking blasts from cosmics.

I hope you aren't talking about Thor there.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Exactly.Although black bolt probably wouldn't scream in a non CIS on fight.Hes done it once...sadly.

The first few times I saw it.When you provided those to me before they were about absorbing energy.Not absorbing and redirecting.

I'm not your f*cking school teacher. I'm not going to hold your hand and guide you through everything.

If you had bothered to read the text and not look at the pretty colors, I wouldn't have to post those scans again.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
I saw it there.And what comic was that?I'd like to read it.

Silver Surfer Vol.1 #4.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
It was less than fully effective -so maybe around 90% in power- and all it did was knock down Ikaris. Thor's far beyond Ikaris physically. He was fighting some Kree Eternal I believe who was going to commit suicide by exploding. Black Bolt used the Master Blow to send him flying out of the blue area of the moon.

If Thing was beat up by the Hulk, he wouldn't have been standing on his feet. The Master Blow at best rocked the Thing. The Master Blow at best knocks Thor off his feet. That's me being generious. I don't think it would do even that as Thing took it square in the chest.

Yes, it was an energy blast. Thanos unleashed energy from his eyes -and possibly from his body- which Thor absorbed directly into his hammer.

You don't seem to understand that you are not the one who dictates how powerful a character is. The Void has never shown how powerful he truly is. Especially Bendis' Sentry. So you don't have some sort of consistent history to drawn on. Molecule Man has been on a downhill slope for a while now. Void beating Molecule Man isn't PIS. It's just a high end feat. At worst an outlier.

I hope you aren't talking about Thor there.

I'm not your f*cking school teacher. I'm not going to hold your hand and guide you through everything.

If you had bothered to read the text and not look at the pretty colors, I wouldn't have to post those scans again.

Silver Surfer Vol.1 #4.

And he said booted around by the hulk.Being beat up isn't the same as being unconcious.Thor would definitly be hurt.

I saw that.

Exactly.Thanks for the right word.I mean even by thors high showings those are just so far out.They're the outliers of his feats.Just too high.

I am.He has only a few feats from like tanking hits from cosmics.Lots of other very high level feats but just not very many at all compared to his others that put him at that level.

Last time I got the point and you proved it.Same as this time.And i'm forgetful.

Wait...I think I have that...

Vulcan 9.5/10

Originally posted by Black bolt z
It did less then 90%

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"Though at such an angle, it is less than fully effective."

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v155/thorion/blackbolt/ikaris2.jpg

The Master Blow he used wasn't less powerful. It didn't miss, it struck him directly. Black Bolt was simply in an awkward position so it wasn't effective as it would be in the form of a punch to the face. 90% is being generous.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
And he said booted around by the hulk.Being beat up isn't the same as being unconcious.Thor would definitly be hurt.

Then it's great that I didn't say he should be unconscious. Would Thor feel it? Why not. Would he be hurt? No. Not any way that would hinder his performance.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
I saw that.

If you had, then there was no need to have asked me.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Exactly.Thanks for the right word.I mean even by thors high showings those are just so far out.They're the outliers of his feats.Just too high.

Your acting as if this was some one time occurrence. Thor has withstood attacks from Celestials in more than one comic. And the era that he withstood them in, Celestials were at the top of the food chain. Beyond even someone such as Galactus or Odin.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
I am.He has only a few feats from like tanking hits from cosmics.Lots of other very high level feats but just not very many at all compared to his others that put him at that level.

There doesn't have to be many. They just have to be there.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Last time I got the point and you proved it.Same as this time.And i'm forgetful.

Obviously it didn't stick. I hope it does this time. Like I said, I'm not your teacher. Bookmark this page or something. Because I won't be repeating myself again.

Originally posted by dmills
Vulcan 9.5/10

lol?

Originally posted by Warlord
lol?

Originally posted by dmills
Ok. 9.4/10. Goldilocks will get in a few licks.

that's better

You know what's funny is that although I'm obviously messing around, if I had never read any classic, and only knew current Thor -outside his own title apparently- that 9/10 might not seem so crazy.

Originally posted by dmills
You know what's funny is that although I'm obviously messing around, if I had never read any classic, and only knew current Thor -outside his own title apparently- that 9/10 might not seem so crazy.

His doing pretty good in the Avengers. Did well in Siege and Secret Invasion.

Thor just hasn't done anything overly impressive -by his standards- lately.

His had three bad showings recently. Two under Hulk fanatics. 1 under a Hulk writer.

I guess my thing is, why? Why is Thor, a quintessential Marvel character, being surpassed in scale by Hercules? I mean I know that the main Thor book always sorta did it's own thing, but damn. Herc?

let's wait and see. interviews reveal Thor will play a major role in Chaos War

Originally posted by dmills
I guess my thing is, why? Why is Thor, a quintessential Marvel character, being surpassed in scale by Hercules? I mean I know that the main Thor book always sorta did it's own thing, but damn. Herc?

Well, Hercules is Pak's newest pet so it was inevitable for him to get some wanking. Still, like Warlord said, Thor is apparently playing a major role in Chaos War, second only to Hercules.

Thor is still a bigger character than Hercules.

The one thing that ticks me off is that Hercules is considered to be part of the "Hulk Family" of books. That just gets to me for some reason. Probably because Hercules started off as a Thor character and mainly interacted in the Thor books. But I guess since Pak is the one who took over him, it makes sense.

Warlord always the optimist.

Nah. I'm already passing up on Chaos War. Nothing to do with Thor though, I just believe that they pissed on TTI and by proxy DnA, so phuck em.

well one can only hope for the best...😉

what was that you disliked in TI?

I just hope Thor doesn't get too embarrassed by Hercules in the first issue of Chaos War because this shit is beginning to get annoying.

Why can't these f*cking fanboys passing off as writers just leave my boy alone?

I still have time. I might become a writer just so I can take over the Thor title. World War Thor or Blood and Thunder 2 will be out shortly after I take over.

With editors doing such a shit job, having Thor defeat World Breaker, the Void, and Galactus amped Surfer wouldn't even be that much of a problem. These days, you can write whatever you want.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Well, Hercules is Pak's newest pet so it was inevitable for him to get some wanking. Still, like Warlord said, Thor is apparently playing a major role in Chaos War, second only to Hercules.

Thor is still a bigger character than Hercules.

The one thing that ticks me off is that Hercules is considered to be part of the "Hulk Family" of books. That just gets to me for some reason. Probably because Hercules started off as a Thor character and mainly interacted in the Thor books. But I guess since Pak is the one who took over him, it makes sense.

Meh, Hercules could use some time in the spotlight. I like him as a character and his been a second rate Thor for too long. Adding Thor, gives the story a big name and legitimacy. Hercules has been an ally of Thor for a long time. I think it's fair that this time Thor's an ally of Hercules'. I might not necessarily like it, but as long as Thor has face time and doesn't get jobbed out, I'm content.

Still, turning him into a being far more powerful than Zeus that leads team that contains Galactus to combat an Abstract threatening to devour all reality just seems so...so...fanboyish to me.

I mean, this is the type of shit you can expect if I ever took over Thor. Minus the power up of course. Thor doesn't need that weak shit.