Stephen Hawking: God did not create the universe

Originally posted by The MISTER
Simple math proves that there is a power that impossibly never had an origin.

0+0=0

If I remember correctly it has been stated that energy can neither be created nor destroyed. Energy's existence is a mathmatical impossibilty so we are bearing witness to a miraculous defiance of the non-existence that the simplest math problem supports.

Math supports an origin that is supernatural

non-existence+ non-existence= non-existence

0+0=1
Non-existence + Non-existence= massive amounts of energy

Why would intelligent people convince themselves that they can thank the emotionless emptiness of space for accidentally making them?

This only displays a rudimentary understanding of physics. I'm not an expert, and even I know this is false and has been proven to be false. You might do well to, ya know, actually read Hawking's book(s) and try to understand the proofs behind his theories before "disproving" him with a few physics memes and some elementary school math.

Because, really, do you think that this 0+0 refutation was forgotten entirely before being published by a world-renowned author? Your simple math fails at common sense.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Which happened in the 50's when atheism was a lot less common.

look, nobody is going to argue that there are a lot of religious scientists

all I am saying, and like I said, with the personal experience of working in a scientific laboratory, doing and publishing research with a literal "evolution-did-not-make-man" creationist, is that people who hold religious values and beliefs are not discriminated against, so long as they don't go off the deep end.

Behe would be a good example of this latter point, as he, a christian biologist, was highly respected in his field until he started his completely pseduoscientific work on intelligent design.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Zero does not equal infinity.

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And I guess "everything exploded out of nothingness cause it had to" is a good enough explanation for the people that despise the idea of their spirit's being held accountable for anything. Cause I don't see any other reason to not believe in a creator of life. Everything has an origin in the physical world so the big bang has no reason to not have one. It's origin was simply outside of the finite world that we understand and produced by an infinite world that we're aware of but will never be able to explain with finite understanding. 😮‍💨

Originally posted by The MISTER
Actually If zero is what you begin with and there isn't anything to add to it then you will have zero indefinitely. You will not have a miraculous explosion of matter and energy. That's simple isn't it? I'm wondering why crackpot scientists won't just admit that they can't produce anything but THEORIES that they CAN'T PROVE about the beginning of all things because they WILL NEVER KNOW! But they'll never say that there's anything that they don't have a "theory" on, and then they'll state their theories like they're scientific laws!

And I guess "everything exploded out of nothingness cause it had to" is a good enough explanation for the people that despise the idea of their spirit's being held accountable for anything. Cause I don't see any other reason to not believe in a creator of life. Everything has an origin in the physical world so the big bang has no reason to not have one. It's origin was simply outside of the finite world that we understand and produced by an infinite world that we're aware of but will never be able to explain with finite understanding. 😮‍💨