Originally posted by Sasaraixx
You would then need someone to protect you from WW if you tried anything. Are you all 13 year old boys?Anyway, I don't see why this is so hotly debated. There are ways of protecting you other than just "beat Superman." As I said, Thor could just send you to another dimension or take you to Asgard. He has a bunch of other esoteric powers he could use to protect you too. While you're safe he could then go off and fight Superman. WW could potentially do something similar.
The others would have to worry about protecting you while fighting Superman. I don't like those odds. With Clark's speed and his super senses, there really isn't any place those guys could hide you where he couldn't find you.
They can hide you behind some lead and go off to fight Superman.
But that's impracticable since it must be prepared before the thread.
By your argument Thor is the best choice. By I'm afraid that you will have to stay in Asgard for the rest of your life (unless Odin endows you with Thor's power) since Thor won't be beating Superman (a CIS off one at that). Odin will have to intervene.
Originally posted by BullwinkleMoose
I'd go with Thor. Thor could fly me to Asgard and have Odin protect me. Diana could do the same with Zeus but I would suspect Thor has more pull with Odin than WW does wiht Zeus.
Diana has a lot of pull with Zeus at the moment (well, pre-JMS), it's just a bad idea to hang around him anyway 🙂 Odin's got less of a history of making bad decisions.
Hm, when Kane Malohi was alive, she had a seashell that could go to any dimension, not just the realms of various gods, which was nice. Then he was killed by Zeus.
Also she's got the invisible plane which is fairly tough, so at the least that could be used to protect you from stray attacks, plus it'll make you harder to find. Shove you in and set it to fly somewhere safe while Diana does the fighting.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
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i dont know.. i mean i recall that moment but i dont see it as being a constant and it is ignoring a lot of past history between the characters.
i dont see thor able to simply make one worthy and give power if the person is not.
eric proved himself too many times in the worth department and being noble plus being merged with thor helped him.
eric assuming he could no longer transform was just an assumption not that thor had a direct effect in the transformation nor that he could make any of us thoresque.
Originally posted by King Castle
i dont know.. i mean i recall that moment but i dont see it as being a constant and it is ignoring a lot of past history between the characters.i dont see thor able to simply make one worthy and give power if the person is not.
eric proved himself too many times in the worth department and being noble plus being merged with thor helped him.
eric assuming he could no longer transform was just an assumption not that thor had a direct effect in the transformation nor that he could make any of us thoresque.
Why not? Who would be better to decide who can wield the power of Thor than Thor himself?
Eric has never been shown worthy of wielding Mjolnir. Not without possessing the essence of Thor inside his being.
Eric assumed that he could no longer wield the power of Thor. No reason to assume that this observation was wrong. He was never able to before. Thor however gave him permission this time around.
Re: Re: Superman Wants to kill you
Originally posted by psycho gundam
thor simply bfr's the vip to a safe location once they tell him they're in grave danger, and then thor kills superman some time after
isn't the point that he has to protect you, not hide/stash you somewhere but be at your side and cover your arse when Superman comes gunning?
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympusumm.. honestly.. Odin. at times i dont think thor's decision making on who is worthy would line up with the enchantment.
Why not? Who would be better to decide who can wield the power of Thor than Thor himself?Eric has never been shown worthy of wielding Mjolnir. Not without possessing the essence of Thor inside his being.
Eric assumed that he could no longer wield the power of Thor. No reason to assume that this observation was wrong. He was never able to before. Thor however gave him permission this time around.
like i said eric proved himself worthy of being thor repeatedly as his stand in, in battle.
he was a father who tried to do good at all cost.
he fought showing courage.
he showed his worth when he refused Mjolnir which odin Recognized.
their are more factors then thor simply granting his power to eric factors that you or i do not share.
Originally posted by King Castle
umm.. honestly.. Odin. at times i dont think thor's decision making on who is worthy would line up with the enchantment.like i said eric proved himself worthy of being thor repeatedly as his stand in, in battle.
he was a father who tried to do good at all cost.
he fought showing courage.
he showed his worth when he refused Mjolnir which odin Recognized.their are more factors then thor simply granting his power to eric factors that you or i do not share.
I mean besides Odin. He was the one who placed the enchantment. Why the hell not?
One more time: Eric was never shown to be worthy of lifting Mjolnir. The exact opposite was the case in fact.
Eric and Thor shared a history. That's true. I don't see how that would matter in this type of situation. Thor granting someone his power not his heart.
they had merged souls... if you dont see that as having an effect i dont know what to tell you.
eric wasnt worthy at 1st but he became worthy later on what cant you understand about that statement?
life experience in the soul can easily explain why he can retain the ability to lift mjonlir.
ask yourself if Adam warlock merged souls with thor via his soul gem or touched thor's soul do you think adam would be able to lift mjolnir?
Originally posted by King Castle
they had merged souls... if you dont see that as having an effect i dont know what to tell you.eric wasnt worthy at 1st but he became worthy later on what cant you understand about that statement?
life experience in the soul can easily explain why he can retain the ability to lift mjonlir.
No he did not. Or at least never showed the opposite. Why can you not understand that?
When Eric and Thor were separated, he was unable to lift Mjolnir and notes that he was not able to before:
This was after Odin had made Masterson Thor's human form, merging the two.
Originally posted by King Castle
ask yourself if Asam warlock merged souls with thor via his soul gem or touched thor's soul do you think adam would be able to lift mjolnir?
No. Not if his and Thor's soul was not still merged.
Given the *specific* conditions of having to fight/stop Superman, *and* protect "you", as well (which is a broad enough statement to include many qualifiers), I'd have to go with Thor or Wonder Woman, as both can (as indicated by others) remove "you" from immediate accessability (in another dimension or realm Supes would have to really trick-out to get to/access, and wouldn't be able to do so quickly/easily), and each is relatively in Supes physical power-league, and are armed with magical powers/devices that can incapacitate/kill him.
Not an auto-win, by any means, but those two would be the best bets, overall, given the stated parameters.
And as we can only vote for one character, I'd choose Thor first, WW second...
Originally posted by h1a8
They can hide you behind some lead and go off to fight Superman.
But that's impracticable since it must be prepared before the thread.
You answered your own question.
By your argument Thor is the best choice. By I'm afraid that you will have to stay in Asgard for the rest of your life (unless Odin endows you with Thor's power) since Thor won't be beating Superman (a CIS off one at that). Odin will have to intervene. [/B]
Not responding to the first point. Secondly, read the stipulations. The only thing you are to be concerned with is not getting killed by Superman.
