Current Hulk vs Silver Age Mangog

Originally posted by dmills
Whoa nellie! We've got quite a bit of embellishment going on there with a tad of obfuscation thrown in for good measure.

Mjolnir > ANY Hulk.

Mjolnir is badass, but we have not seen it in action against this new stronger and more damage resistant Hulk. I think that people in certaut as I pointed out, he has yet to prove this.in cases should just fall back, and see who the big dog is. Mangog IMO may be able to bet the Hulk but there is no proof on his side, all I've read was hyperbole, whereas the Hulk has actual feats that we can pull out of his locker and see.

Originally posted by dmills
The Mangog feats may be vaporware. And yeah Stoic, you're nut's if you think that the Hulk is anywhere near skyfather level strength. It's still up for debate if he's even the strongest on Earth.

What is vaporware? You mean like when Spidey said that Sentry could beat Galactus vaporware? What did people say? Well it has to be proven. It's ok for one but not the other? The Hulk wins until viable evidence shows that Mangog has the stuff to beat a guy that can not only match him in strength, but exceed his might, while also being leagues smarter than him.

Have you ever seen how much a Sky Father can lift? The Hulk has infinite strength potential, meaning that he could exceed a Sky Fathers max bench press. Not that he is as powerful as one, but his strength would do many Sky Fathers proud if they possessed it. You get me?

Originally posted by Stoic
What is vaporware? You mean like when Spidey said that Sentry could beat Galactus vaporware? What did people say? Well it has to be proven. It's ok for one but not the other? The Hulk wins until viable evidence shows that Mangog has the stuff to beat a guy that can not only match him in strength, but exceed his might, while also being leagues smarter than him.

Have you ever seen how much a Sky Father can lift? The Hulk has infinite strength potential, meaning that he could exceed a Sky Fathers max bench press. Not that he is as powerful as one, but his strength would do many Sky Fathers proud if they possessed it. You get me?

SA Mangog defeated Odin that alone carries more weight than any Hulk feat.

No I don't get you. A sky father can will himself past the hulk at any point no matter how much banner amps. They have a deeper well to draw from if need be.

Originally posted by the Darkone
SA Mangog defeated Odin that alone carries more weight than any Hulk feat.

Originally posted by dmills
I was somewhat agreeing with you. The feats may be vaporware because the Mangog proponents have't shown us anything.

Yea I know, I just wanted to clarify my words from an earlier post. I can easily admit that Mangog could conceivably wreck the Green Skaar, and vice versa. That's only one avenue to take though, Mangog would also have to compete with banners mind, which he would employ most likely, if he knew all that there was to know about Mangog.

I was under the impression that I should be careful when saying things like; Mangoon trumps all, because of his showing against an unprepped Odin. Not when you factor in that Odin has stopped him when he wasn't in his pj's chilling.

My bad SA Mangog didn't kill Odin, but he defeated him and held Odin captive. Thor 195-198

But he did ruled Asgard Thor #242, 244, 246-250

Originally posted by dmills
No I don't get you. A sky father can will himself past the hulk at any point no matter how much banner amps. They have a deeper well to draw from if need be.

D, according to the files written on the Hulk, he draws his powers from an inexhaustible power source. I couldn't find it, but I almost recall the Marvel handbooks stating that the Hulk's powers were extradimensional. The well that you're talking about may not be deeper, or more efficient in generating strength values for either. If you read Planet Hulk, or read it. Read closely at how long it took for him to go from a base level (whatever that is today) to being able to save the planet Sakaar. Not long at all, sorry D but I have to disagree with you. On the strength thing.

If the Hulk had Energy projection powers, and could errect mystical fields and such, he'd be up there in power.

i think it was a handbook or something but hulk has infinit energy reserves. it doesnt mean he has infinit strength like fanboys say but his strength can increase to any level of power basing on how long he stays in rage mode there is no upperlimit
the ceestial tech in war hulk was tapping into some of that power and made hulk strong enough to slow juggs to a near stop

Originally posted by Stoic
Mjolnir is badass, but we have not seen it in action against this new stronger and more damage resistant Hulk, as I pointed out, he has yet to prove this. I think that people in certain cases should just fall back, and see who the big dog is. Mangog IMO may be able to beat the Hulk but there is no proof on his side, all I've read was hyperbole, whereas the Hulk has actual feats that we can pull out of his locker and see.

Fixed.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
i think it was a handbook or something but hulk has infinit energy reserves. it doesnt mean he has infinit strength like fanboys say but his strength can increase to any level of power basing on how long he stays in rage mode there is no upperlimit
the ceestial tech in war hulk was tapping into some of that power and made hulk strong enough to slow juggs to a near stop

Fanboys? No, not really, it's how the characters powers work. He simply has no plateau, and can be written to conceivably be as strong or stronger than any given opponent. Honestly, it's written in every bio of the character, go and check it out for yourself.

He stopped Juggs dead, didn't he? He then threw him away right? Have you noticed the color of Banner/Hulk's eyes at certain moments? What color were War Hulks?

Originally posted by Stoic
Fanboys? No, not really, it's how the characters powers work. He simply has no plateau, and can be written to conceivably be as strong or stronger than any given opponent. Honestly, it's written in every bio of the character, go and check it out for yourself.

He stopped Juggs dead, didn't he? He then threw him away right? Have you noticed the color of Banner/Hulk's eyes at certain moments? What color were War Hulks?

Originally posted by janus77
umm, there was some attempt at providing an argument there, somewhere? 😕

what's Galactus got to do with this? he farts more power than all of Asgard put together 😐

Mangog

Originally posted by Stoic

Also the Hulk would be considered as a Sky Father level character, if he could fly and had energy blast output as great as his strength. I know many will disagree with this assessment, but if you really thought about it long enough, you may see what I do. He does have Sky Father level strength.

Originally posted by DarkOdin
Rhino farts more power then current Asgard 🙁

sorry, i couldnt help myself...

Originally posted by dmills
I'm shocked by the willingness of some to accept moronic writing (Rulk) and psuedo canon (Let the battle begin) as gospel. That really surprises me.

When Thor gets beaten, it's always a matter of pseudo canon or moronic writing ahhaah

Hulk(s) > Thor, Thanos, DC Top Tier, Mangog...everyone else.

Pak and Loeb think that WB Hulk is Galactus level.

Originally posted by SuperiorTech
Can we just get the Hulk vs Odin that were we are headed right?

WWH Hulk is above Odin or Odin powered Thor who is above Odin too.
And WB HUlk is leagues above WWH.

1) MZ: Since Thor has the Odinforce and is more powerful than his father, is he stronger than the Green Scar?

Greg Pak: All I can say is that if I were Thor, I wouldn’t have wanted to be in the Sentry’s place during the climactic battle in “World War Hulk” #5.
http://www.brokenfrontier.com/columns/p/detail/a-visit-from-lopresti

-2) Greg Pak: In short, I’d say it’s pretty safe to say that no one could have stopped the Hulk at the end of "World War Hulk" if the Hulk hadn't wanted to be stopped.
http://www.brokenfrontier.com/columns/p/detail/on-to-the-warbound

- 3) AGdAV: Second, in the last moments, when Hulk released his real fury, causing massive destruction and blowing energy from his body, who could stop it? I meant, what heroes could stop it? Superman, maybe?

Greg Pak: With all due respect to the Distinguished Competition, I don't think even Superman would stand a chance. In the end, only the Hulk himself could provide the opening that Iron Man needed to end the madness.
http://www.pakbuzz.com/ptc-submission.shtml

and Pak is writing Chaos War.... great....