Originally posted by Stoic
Are you talking about non toon Lobo? How does tricking Darkseid translate to Lobo being able to take Darkseid, or Maestro in a battle for that matter?
Lobo is lobo. When he's been in Superman titles, he's held his own for the most part. Like I said, reflect in the averages. Lobo has more high end showings than he does low showings and everything in-between.
Originally posted by Prep-Man
Lobo is lobo. When he's been in Superman titles, he's held his own for the most part. Like I said, reflect in the averages. Lobo has more high end showings than he does low showings and everything in-between.
I was factoring in his average Superman title like showings. When he was over matched by Despero, when he broke his hand on Darkseid's face, when he was KO'd by Superman (eclipsed), and When he fought Etrigan and stalemated with him, he was the non toon time Lobo.
The Toon time Lobo that lots of people love to bring up has enough power at times to face off with a Full powered Tyrant and win. This one should not be used in a forum battle.
Lobo in his un-exaggerated showings, has some really great showings too, like him being able to rip through Hal Jordan's containments like he was tearing through paper, nearly beating pre DOS Superman to death while being shyt in ur pantsez drunk. Taking on the entire Justice League Europe.
Originally posted by Stoic
I was factoring in his average Superman title like showings. When he was over matched by Despero, when he broke his hand on Darkseid's face, when he was KO'd by Superman (eclipsed), and When he fought Etrigan and stalemated with him, he was the non toon time Lobo.The Toon time Lobo that lots of people love to bring up has enough power at times to face off with a Full powered Tyrant and win. This one should not be used in a forum battle.
Lobo in his un-exaggerated showings, has some really great showings too, like him being able to rip through Hal Jordan's containments like he was tearing through paper, nearly beating pre DOS Superman to death while being shyt in ur pantsez drunk. Taking on the entire Justice League Europe.
On average, Lobo gives Superman fits and even knocked his ass around. LATELY, Lobo has been harder and harder to put down. I factor those in the most.
On average Lobo is Superman level. No let me clarify this, he walks around as a threat to anyone who is in Superman’s class. That is routinely on average. His feats constantly breaches the Superman level when he is enraged/motivated. That’s his M.O. its been for the past 30 years or so.
Problem is members are quick to jock him down, simply because he is one of the very few popular characters that mixes extreme violence with humor. Thus cherry pick low moments, to make up a case that he is a toon character and shouldn’t be taken serious. This is inherently a wrong. Those low showing are nothing more than PIS, in efforts to inject the issue with some comic relief.
If you are one those members, then you should deny all of Deadpool’s feats, or revaluate what forms of fiction are acceptable.
I assure you, has been pounded with blows heavier then an average sledge hammer with no effect. And rarely breaks his fist, despite constantly trading punches with characters as equally invulnerable to himself or greater.
Maestro Hulk may overpower Lobo on average. But if Lobo can survive or stay in the game. He becomes enraged/motivated, we know what he is capable of, because we’ve seen him do it. At this point he is simply beyond Maestro Hulk.