Crisis Of Infinit Earths Anti Monitor VS Black Celestial Arc Galactus

Originally posted by Mindset
He was cognizant enough to know he needed to use it and then was able to do so,

Originally posted by Mindset
there is nothing to suggest he wouldn't be able to bring it to himself now that it's been revealed to actually being a part of him.

A single stray thought brought him the UN.

Plot/Updated info on his abilities.

Pick your poison.

Originally posted by Mindset
A single stray thought brought him the UN.

Plot/Updated info on his abilities.

Pick your poison.

I have always though COEI AM's defeat was a complete PIS

The guy had the power of his antimatter universe which by that time IT SHOULD had been bigger than any matter universe and about the size of the whole multiverse minus 5 universes.

But COEI AM should win this one regardless if the other guy can destroy 1 universe, this is the infinite universe destroyer, he had the power of all the universes He destroyed, THUS his defeat in COEI was nothing but PIS

Originally posted by Galan007
616 Galactus =/= BCA Galactus.

Or did they change that?

Originally posted by Mindset
BCA Galactus is 616 Galactus years into the future.

Or did they change that?

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
you destroy a concept, you become it

Can you back this up with proof?

AM.

Originally posted by Galan007
Alternate future. That's why Reed had no moral issues with giving Galactus the UN, and allowing him to nullify that universe.

Where did it say it was an alt universe?

Couldn't Galactus, I don't know, FEED on Anti-Monitor's excess energies? He is a living energy collector after all.

I'm thinking it's a draw personally. Feats be damned.

.

Originally posted by Mindset
Because they sealed him in a time bubble separating him from the rest of time.

Where did it say it was an alt universe?

For instance, in that story (which we know occurred in the distant future), Tiamut had just woken up after centuries of imprisonment under the mountain... But his latest canon showings in Eternals contradict that. Etc.

Why is it that every time there is a Galactus thread we have UN vs *insert character here* thread.

Even if UN was a thing that Galactus could use in every battle kinda defeats the purpose of having Galactus in the thread.

Well, the UN is:

1) An aspect of Galactus himself.
2) His best attack.

So without PIS/CIS, there is no zero reason for him not to use it against any given opponent...

Of course this also makes Galactus pretty much unbeatable against anyone expect the "supreme being" types...

^ Except this version of Galactus was incapable of summoning the UN to his location, and had to have it literally handed to him by the F4. That + the fact that Galactus has 'died' the few times he has actually used the UN, should be reason enough to assume that he wouldn't be using it here.

Originally posted by Galan007
^ Except this version of Galactus was incapable of summoning the UN to his location, and had to have it literally handed to him by the F4. That + the fact that Galactus has 'died' the few times he has actually used the UN, should be reason enough to assume that he wouldn't be using it here.

I agree with Galan that it could be argued as "more than CIS", when we say there is no CIS we mean fight on their capabilities and that Galactus was not as focused as others. It could be argued whether or not he can summon the UN, but certainly it has nothing to do with CIS because that by itself doesn't make you inmune to losing control or becoming an idiot.

the notion that future timelines are automatically to be treated as alternate universes is a good one, but the current Avengers - Maestro storyline and some previous Kang, Doom and even Future Imperfect seem to be extending the 'future' into the 616 present.

I mean Kang works for Maestro, thus Hulk will become Maestro (😖) and in FF, 616 Franklin had to beg a younger Doom to save his grandfather's arse (but this led to some vague time-reset, so not quite sure).

basically, the characters, attributes and relationships are 616, just that their actions happen in a revised past or an existing future... this is quite different to the traditional "alternative universe" idea, where powers, persona, relationships are different, thus feats cannot be compared to extrapolated.

oh, on-topic, Galactus ftw ✅

^ That would be all fine and dandy IF the Black Celestial arc wasn't contradicted by more current happenings. Aside from that, both BCA Galactus and that universe were nullified -- making it impossible for those events to transpire again.

Originally posted by Galan007
^ That would be all fine and dandy IF the Black Celestial arc wasn't contradicted by more current happenings. Aside from that, both BCA Galactus and that universe were nullified -- making it impossible for those events to transpire again.

Also there was this weird time-bubble idea going when Nebula and Kang tried to get into that reality to control Galactus. It's safe to say it got divided from normal 616 time since the time-bubble happened since you couldn't time-travel to that moment.