BlazBlue vs Legacy of Kain

Started by Burning thought2 pages

Have they mind resistances? has anyone tried to mind control them?

Oh good question I completely forgot to mention this!

Terumi has mind control powers. It's like a hobby of his. 😐

He is able to mindrape, or just outright control your mind, he can also possess you.

Some characters would be able to resist mental powers easily, like Hakumen, who was imprisoned in the Boundary for ninety years, most who are even exposed to the Boundary for a much lesser time mentally and physically degrade, Hakumen did not by virtue of pure willpower. Terumi also was able to weather the same amount of time in the Boundary. Others we could reason would not be susceptible to mental powers, since Terumi never even bothers to try it on them like he does other characters, these are the more powerful Blazblue characters, like Ragna, Hakumen, Rachel Alucard, Valkenhayn, Jubei, and stuff and things. Jin Kisaragi would also be immune, since he recently was able to overcome the mental control his sword had on him. In fact, anyone who can effectively wield a weapon called a Nox Nyctores would be immune for the most part, since they are able to withstand their own weapon's mental influence.

Mu is already being mentally controlled by Terumi, and the Black Beast would be immune to mental powers, since Terumi explicitly said the main reason it was a failure was because he could not control it.

If you have the time or anyone with Blazblue experiance, please list the characters under these headings, only put them in the headings if they have actually had the respective powers used on them and have resisted it directly:

Mind control/Soul control immune and magic resistance/immune (state whether immune).

Magic immune/resistant (state whether immune or just resistant).

Mind control immune:

Soul power immune:

Ofc if your too lazy then fine, ime looking up some of these characters online. It would seem that according to images on a wiki, the Black Beast was like a giant Hydra sort of thing.

Mind control/Soul control immune and magic resistance/immune (state whether immune): Terumi, being capable of soul and mind control on vast scales, is naturally immune, and he shows a great deal of resistance to damage, magical or otherwise, being immune to some of the character's attacks entirely. Being immortal helps. Takamagahara falls under this, since it has neither a proper mind nor soul to control, and is essentially unreachable to anyone unless they allow it. Hakumen has shown mental resistance and his soul is protected by the Susano'o Unit, which also protects him from magical powah to an extent. Black Beast of course counts, being basically concentrated seithr without a mind to control, being comprised of thousands of souls, and despite being injured by magic still held resistance to it. Mu counts for all practical purposes, Terumi has complete control of her mind due to his own mental powers being amplified by the Lifelink, she like the Black Beast is largely comprised of thousands of souls, and unlike the Beast appeared even more resistant to magic than it was.

Magic immune/resistant (state whether immune or just resistant): Everyone falls under resistant, since everyone can use magic to an extent. Not sure if anyone really falls under truly immune other than Takamagahara.

Mind control immune: Jin Kisaragi, Arakune (Prolly, his mind is already completely raped by the Boundary), Tsubaki (Sorry, Terumi beat you to mind controlling her 😐), Ragna (Terumi's mind****ery was resisted), Jubei, Noel Vermillion (It is actually part of her weapon, Bolverk's, traits).

Soul power immune: Harder to gauge, no one has shown to be affected by soul powers, but Terumi does not typically use them as often.

Probably forgetting something.

I think if LoK use soul powers, Dark eden and mind contorl on those they can. They can kill some of the characters but considering so many seem fairly strong they would likely lose by the end.

The EG has not had his substance power taken away, e.g. hes a sub spiritual entity in this match so I am not sure what can touch him tbh. Neither spirit or physical forces could in the games, his contintental body would crush the majority of them, based on size continent>city.

Also although blazblue may have strength/speed advantages, who has hte numbers? LoK series in its entirety have the entire vampire race of SR era who have resistance and regen able to keep up with ease against Raziels hundred tonxPSI attacks.

As for teh Dark beast, LoK will have to use inspire hate or mind control on someone who can beat it in the Blazblue universe. Either that or the EG fights it.

Originally posted by Burning thought
I think if LoK use soul powers, Dark eden and mind contorl on those they can. They can kill some of the characters but considering so many seem fairly strong they would likely lose by the end.

The EG has not had his substance power taken away, e.g. hes a sub spiritual entity in this match so I am not sure what can touch him tbh. Neither spirit or physical forces could in the games, his contintental body would crush the majority of them, based on size continent>city.

Also although blazblue may have strength/speed advantages, who has hte numbers? LoK series in its entirety have the entire vampire race of SR era who have resistance and regen able to keep up with ease against Raziels hundred tonxPSI attacks.

As for teh Dark beast, LoK will have to use inspire hate or mind control on someone who can beat it in the Blazblue universe. Either that or the EG fights it.

Well some of the weaker characters in the cast would prolly die, but this is the Blazblue verse as a whole, a single Librarium office is stated to have as much military might as an entire nation, and there are many.

Some characters should be able to harm the Elder God. Jubei's sword Musashi is able to cut what normally cannot be, it was shown to cut into and destroy a magical pocket dimension, and Hakumen's sword was able to cut through time itself to view a different timeline. In fact, several characters have transdimensional powers, Hakumen, Jubei, Valkenhayn, Terumi, Nine (And pretty much anyone who can use her kind of magic), and Rachel Alucard have all shown to be able to do this. And if Takamagahara wished to directly involve themselves, they could easily destroy the Elder God. And, and physically he could not handle some Blazblue characters, a mid-tier in the cast is able to physically destroy the moon, Tager is able to fly outside of the atmosphere and send you crashing down creating a gigantic crater (Not sure of the size), Hakumen at 20% power can destroy half of a city/mountain (The mountain is the city), and as said before Ragna physically fought with and held back the Black Beast for a full year non-stop. The Black Beast's power also was able to cover and destroy most of the planet.

Blazblue in all likelihood has numbers. The Librarium as a government controls the entire world, and a single base has the military power of an entire nation. Not counting all of the vigilantes and fighters who are not allied with the Librarium. Oh, and I should probably mention this, Kokonoe, a scientist and head of an organization called Sector Seven, has nuclear weapons at her disposal. ALOT of nuclear weapons, if I recall right there appeared to be over a hundred. Oh, and she is perfectly willing to use them.

There is nearly no one in the Blazblue universe who can kill the Black Beast one on one, and by nearly no one, the only one who MIGHT be able to do it is Terumi as he is now, who would be immune to mental powers, and maybe Ragna with the Idea Engine, who is also immune to mental powers.

Musashi I can understand, cutting time on the other hand would not harm the EG since its ambigious, whats time got to do with the EG's state? and a few swords slashing at what is enormous tentacles that multiply and regenerate across a continental form is insignifcant. And Takamagahara have what feats of destroying entities?

Chances are nukes will do more harm to them than Lok whos majority is supernatural or spiritual. Nukes are never viable in all out war unless for some reason the whole of Lok is bunched up, far away from Blazblue forces. Are buildings and objects from both universes even present here?

Whats Ragna done specifically to show hes immune to mental powers?

I also just read online that one of Ragnas moves is called "Blood Kain" lolz...

Originally posted by Burning thought
Musashi I can understand, cutting time on the other hand would not harm the EG since its ambigious, whats time got to do with the EG's state? and a few swords slashing at what is enormous tentacles that multiply and regenerate across a continental form is insignifcant. And Takamagahara have what feats of destroying entities?

Chances are nukes will do more harm to them than Lok whos majority is supernatural or spiritual. Nukes are never viable in all out war unless for some reason the whole of Lok is bunched up, far away from Blazblue forces. Are buildings and objects from both universes even present here?

Whats Ragna done specifically to show hes immune to mental powers?

I also just read online that one of Ragnas moves is called "Blood [b]Kain" lolz... [/B]

1. Hakumen's sword can cut damn near anything it wants to, its special ability is that it actually allows him to basically negate magic, this allows him to do shit like cut and kill stuff that normally could not be, and apparently cut through time. Why would that not work? It worked pretty damn well for Kain. 😐 Not to mention, I have been meaning to ask you this, where was it ever actually shown or stated that the Elder God is continental in size? Takamagahara is able to reality warp the entire planet. 😐 It can manipulate and control anyone it wishes to, if it desired it could literally keep everyone in the Blazblue universe from dying, like it did with Terumi.

2. See, thing is, Kokonoe would be more than willing to sacrifice people's lives to win. Also, her science has the means to teleport the main players in Blazblue away, as do many Blazblue characters. I was kinda assuming so honestly. 😐

Resisted Terumi's mind powers. Oh also I should probably mention Ragna has soul powers, and can both devour your soul and erase you from existence at once.

Yeah, that is Ragna when using the Blazblue.

You see him across the continent of Nosgoth. Youve been told this by most, not just me. And it worked for Kain because he used a Sword that attacked the EG's spiritual essence in a way other weapons could not, Kains sword has shown to be able to harm the EG, despite it being immune to soul attacks from Raziels wraith blade and being immaterial (so physical attacks are no good). Why Kains sword works can only be down to the fact its empowered by so many things at once. Ive only read that Takamagahara keeps the world from ending and so uses time control to make it repeat itself but apperntly, even they were defeated and their omniitence found wanting so I am not sure they can actually beat "anyone" they wanted to.

2. many of the LoK characters, especially the main ones can also teleport so chances are, the nukes will only help destroy the basic forces of either side. Only the Vampires will be left behind as spirits.

Can you show me him doing it? resisting Terumi and indeed, Terumis powers please? also has Terumi himself resisted mind powers?