Originally posted by marwash22
adding smilies to your post's doesn't help soften your condescending tone.
I'm not really aiming to soften.
The point is, you know very well they're capable of handling attacks from that level.
Deflecting the pantheon's energy is way more impressive than blocking mjolnir and you know it.
Originally posted by Q99Ahhhh, so you're purposely being a dick. gotcha! 😉
I'm not really aiming to soften.
Originally posted by Q99Sure, but we aren't discussing what's more impressive, we're discussing whether or not her bracers could hold up to being hit by Thor wielding Mjolnir. Defelcting a blast is not even close to being the same thing as standing your ground and absorbing a hit.
Deflecting the pantheon's energy is way more impressive than blocking mjolnir and you know it.
This is like claiming that, just because Karate kid is able to redirect a punch from Superman, he can also stand there and tank the same punch... the two things are completely different.
Originally posted by marwash22
Ahhhh, so you're purposely being a dick. gotcha!
I would phrase it as I'm less polite to people who are know to purposefully troll a subject.
Sure, but we aren't discussing what's more impressive, we're discussing whether or not her bracers could hold up to being hit by Thor wielding Mjolnir. Defelcting a blast is not even close to being the same thing as standing your ground and absorbing a hit.
But, you know she's done so with the likes of the Omega effect before too.
Heck, even Wonder Girl's lesser bracers have taken hits from Superboy Prime.
Arishem shrugged of an energy bolt containing the power of Odin, Zeus and Vishnu. Three Skyfathers. Celestial Armor was not even scratched by multiple blows from the Odin Destroyer.
Mjolnir damaged that same Celestial and was able to break through the shell of Arishem.
So....the bracers reflecting the power of the Olympians isn't proof that Mjolnir could break them. Just saying. Of course, it depends on how much force is behind Mjolnir.
Originally posted by Q99
By what was going on, it looked like she was talking about taking too much damage even with the bracers, due to shockwave and such. The bracers showed no, and I mean zero, visible damage, hardly like they were about to break. They have take far more before and since too. It was her who was failing rather than them when she was saying they could only take hits like that for so long.
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"Even my bracelets can only withstand hits like that for so long."
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Strength/striking/WonderWomanv2175a.jpg
I'm fine with acknowledging it as a low showing but your doing some spinning here.
Although I will admit that the statement isn't as conclusive as I remembered it to be.
Originally posted by Q99
The wrist thing was above the bracers too, and looked much more like he pulled the wrist back against them until it snapped (dah).
I'm pretty sure I already had this conversation with you. I wasn't referring to that scene but to this one:
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Strength/squeezing/WonderWomanv2175b.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Strength/squeezing/WonderWomanv2175c.jpg
Originally posted by Q99
Godwave thing:
http://www.picamatic.com/show/2008/10/23/02/18/1228869_867x1270.jpg
http://www.picamatic.com/show/2008/10/23/02/22/1228872_882x1264.jpg
http://www.picamatic.com/show/2008/10/23/02/22/1228873_887x1260.jpg
http://www.picamatic.com/show/2008/10/23/02/22/1228874_882x1264.jpgBouncing the combined might of the pantheon off them to destroy Olympus.
Oh, okay. I thought he was referring to another scene. When I think of the God Wave, I usually think of the original one for some reason.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
According to Cap his shield might not take another karate chop from Mandarin 🙂But yeah, I also believe Steve's shield is more durable.
I know of that scene -he actually said something similar about Thor/Mjolnir- and I see your point. This scene is what ultimately makes me bring up Superman though:
It's obviously not conclusive as it's still an alternate time line but these scenes create a basis for characters of Superman's level -or status- damaging the bracers.
I'm of the opinion that in extreme situations either Thor or Hulk would be capable of doing so.
On a "simple" level of physicality, I'd place WW's Bracers and Cap's Shield on roughly equal footing -- any differences/advantages (again, on a *simple* physical level) would be difficult to discern properly. But the Bracers do have the advantage of powerful, god-level magic *in addition* to their general durability (or intrinsically part of their nature, in an applied manner), so I'd say they are generally superior to the shield in most all circumstances.
Originally posted by tideoftime
On a "simple" level of physicality, I'd place WW's Bracers and Cap's Shield on roughly equal footing -- any differences/advantages (again, on a *simple* physical level) would be difficult to discern properly. But the Bracers do have the advantage of powerful, god-level magic *in addition* to their general durability (or intrinsically part of their nature, in an applied manner), so I'd say they are generally superior to the shield in most all circumstances.
can't just say something is magical therefore must be better than something that is not magical.
Anyway the way I see there has not been much instances of bracers blocking serious physical attacks with zero trouble. But on the other hand bloodlusted king thor and thanos with a IF broke it (also who knows if he just used strength to do it since he was using everything except omniscience at the time).
As for high end energy attacks, I think the beyonder blasted it to shit one time or something... and well hes the ****ing beyonder so i'll put the house on that if Beyonder wanted to break the bracer with a blast he would.
Then the braccers can block massive high end energy projection (not beyonder level but impresive) I think thats what its famous for.
This is a toughie. Flip a coin I say...
"Even my bracelets can only withstand hits like that for so long."http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums...Womanv2175a.jpg
I'm fine with acknowledging it as a low showing but your doing some spinning here.
Although I will admit that the statement isn't as conclusive as I remembered it to be.
It's the fact that it's showing both major shockwaves and a lack of damage that makes me think it's not them breaking that she's worried about.
I admit the text reads more your way, but the visuals support mine.
I'm pretty sure I already had this conversation with you. I wasn't referring to that scene but to this one:
Yea, I remember that conversation too, and it's still a wrist break and the wrist is above the bracers. The bracers do not seem to be crushed, plus we see them after in a non-crushed state. Top of his hand were above the bracers, too.
So I don't think the bracers were malformed.
Originally posted by Lord Feron
can't just say something is magical therefore must be better than something that is not magical.Anyway the way I see there has not been much instances of bracers blocking serious physical attacks with zero trouble. But on the other hand bloodlusted king thor and thanos with a IF broke it (also who knows if he just used strength to do it since he was using everything except omniscience at the time).
As for high end energy attacks, I think the beyonder blasted it to shit one time or something... and well hes the ****ing beyonder so i'll put the house on that if Beyonder wanted to break the bracer with a blast he would.
Then the braccers can block massive high end energy projection (not beyonder level but impresive) I think thats what its famous for.
This is a toughie. Flip a coin I say...
I think you are misreading my post (or, at least, its intent): it's *because* the bracers have *powerful* magical ability ( on-panel and off-panel references to their having additional protective powers/shielding/channeling vast magical power, which the shield *does not*), that I am saying they likely are superior to the shield, not that *because* they are magical, alone. The bracers are "more tricked-out", so to speak, above and beyond their "simple" durability. That is, the shield doesn't have the ability to channel/create magical power to provide even greater protection, which the bracers *can* do... Hope that clears that up...
