Pre-Retcon Beyonder vs. Living Tribunal AND Eternity

I suppose, but that's not exactly the same thing. The PC characters are actually different incarnations of the character then the modern versions, not just "the character if we chop off everything that happened after x point".

Classic Dr. Strange would count, I guess.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Pre-retcon beyonder threads should be banned.

Beyonder
Mxy
CA Supeman
Mandrakk
Thanos /w/ HOTI
Etc.

Any threads with the above characters almost always get closed. 👇

I think plenty of those characters could be debatable if people took a more level headed approach. But for instance, in any thread w/ Mandrakk, suggestions that he lose are usually met with "you obviously just didn't read/understand final crisis" which is a pretty blatant fallacy.

Originally posted by King Kandy
I think plenty of those characters could be debatable if people took a more level headed approach. But for instance, in any thread w/ Mandrakk, suggestions that he lose are usually met with "you obviously just didn't read/understand final crisis" which is a pretty blatant fallacy.

I'm talking about Mandrakk 1.

Originally posted by King Kandy
I'm talking about Mandrakk 1.

OK, but that's really not relevant to what I was saying, other than it shows that neither side are debating particularly well.

Originally posted by King Kandy
I think plenty of those characters could be debatable if people took a more level headed approach. But for instance, in any thread w/ Mandrakk, suggestions that he lose are usually met with "you obviously just didn't read/understand final crisis" which is a pretty blatant fallacy.

As for the Mandrakk stuff: I do think you need to have a thorough understanding of the Superman Beyond books, if you are to understand exactly what he is/was, and debate intelligently in a thread he is involved in. After all, a mini as complex as SB needs to be read quite a few times before you begin to grasp everything that is going on in it (something not everyone has done)... But I do understand what you're saying.

^ I myself had to read two/three annotations/reviews before I got a good grasp of a lot of the concepts and ideas involved.

Originally posted by Galan007
There are a lot of characters who have no place in versus threads.

Beyonder
Mxy
CA Supeman
Mandrakk
Thanos /w/ HOTI
Etc.

Any threads with the above characters almost always get closed. 👇

I will add to Your List :
Presence and all its manifestations/aspects ( could be far better for DC to never created such Judeo-Christian corelated Cosmology)
Mother Of Existence
The Endless

Originally posted by Omega Vision
^ I myself had to read two/three annotations/reviews before I got a good grasp of a lot of the concepts and ideas involved.

Out of all characters so powerful such as Mxy, LT, Protege, Mandrakk... PR Beyonder tops them all.

Even such powerful characters couldn't even challenge him.

^ That, again, is only your opinion.

I don't think here is the case about opinions. It simply is.
PR Beyonder is simply in his own class.

Originally posted by Galan007
^ That, again, is only your opinion.

Ergo it must be fact. dur

Originally posted by Xplosive
Out of all characters so powerful such as Mxy, LT, Protege, Mandrakk... PR Beyonder tops them all.

Even such powerful characters couldn't even challenge him.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Oh, don't even start.

It is what it is.

Making unequivocal statements without backing things up is usually the short way to sounding like an ass.

Originally posted by Xplosive
I don't think here is the case about opinions. It simply is.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Ah-ah-ah, Galan, it's also Mr Master's opinion.

Ergo it must be fact. dur

It was backed so many times, it's not necessary.
You really think it's necessary or you just never read or heard about PR Beyonder?