Originally posted by King Castle
fine lobo pulling solaris down to him however little it was is a loony feat...If the sun eater has realistic characteristic of a real life mini sun that size.
i guess the planet and its ppl also have loony powers..facepalm2
no matter how retarded some feats are for some characters or above another.. its how well they do against others that is the measuring stick..
if one guy can lift the sky or universe but still can only go toe to toe against some hybrid atlantean in strength then they are still in the same weight class.. some can argue PIS for one or the other but at the end of the day we take their consistent showings against his brethren in the 100 ton class.
Oh boy, just what this forum needed.
Originally posted by Omega Visionno... i never said that. i would appreciate it if you stop straw-manning. its starting to get irritating.
So this is another thread where you kvetch about how you don't like a certain DC character?Oh boy, just what this forum needed.
i simply saying that a forum fight isnt a bench pressing contest but how ones powers can effect another and who has a better chance of knocking who out.
bloodstrike was able to go toe to toe with thor and kick his @$$.. so bloodstrike isnt weak and he doesnt need to have a bench press feat in order to realize what weight class he is in.
Originally posted by King Castle
no... i never said that. i would appreciate it if you stop straw-manning. its starting to get irritating.
When you make a ranting post that doesn't even attempt to refute my argument directly in favor of savaging the character's inconsistent characterization you're essentially trolling the character.
pls stop with the accusations that have nothing to do with the debate. i am asking you politely after that i will consider it trolling and baiting.
now i am not dismissing Lobo's strength just i dont agree it would be a factor here.
Bloodstrike isnt just standing around letting lobo hook him and drag him.
Bloodstrikes weapon is mystical and would cleave his hook if he tried the solaris trick... Lobo's strength wouldnt matter.
the axe also grants the user all the fighting skills and knowledge of the weapon.
i could see strike using this weapons innate knowledge ability to cleave lobo's soul from his body and send into limbo like dimension..
i dont see lobo's hook able to stop the attack b/c it is metaphysical as well as teh hook bn broken numerously.
his soul is untouchable to DC metaphysical realms and subsidiaries.
marvel isnt hampered by such contract.... they didnt agree to it.
and sending his soul to another dimension isnt in violation of any contract.
Seth was also barred by Death and yet Bloodstrike manage to BFR his soul after destroying his body.
either way Lobo isnt immune from a ko.
you might as well argue that Lobo cant go to any other high or lower dimension when that is clearly not the case.
The contract sums up a clause, as the why he is immortal explaining reasons, and details. It matters little if Marvel has to agree with it. Forum rules apply that characters abilities carry over, despite matches taking place in neutral setting.
Otherwise members could argue that the Infinity Gems will not work outside of Marvel. Or that the Authority would be gimped in a real world setting.
yes, doesnt mean he cant be removed to a neutral setting either and hamper another person's ability especially since he has violated a similar contract in his own reality showing its possible to violate his opponents contract or circumvent it.
BFR lobo's soul isnt a violation of the contract it just means he cant go to certain realms not neutral dimensions.
lobo has bn separated from his body after his contract once by his own hands by blowing out his brains.
the axe sents him to another dimension not an after life big difference...
plus strike wasnt a skyfather so he wouldnt be under oath to not send his soul away to his pocket dimension cleaved by the axe.
Originally posted by Parmaniac
Lobo and here's the reasonR.E.B.E.L.S. 20
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I'm not going to say Thunderstrike can't beat Lobo. I just don't think it's likely.
The main man only recently gave Hal, Sinestro, and Carol all they could handle. Actually beat Sinestro up a little with his own construct, too.
And all that while basically holding back, considering his contract didn't include killing or capturing.
Originally posted by Lord_Talronhe finally allowed his axe that he had bn carrying around from the beginning of his series to finally possess him..
no, thats why im asking
he fought Seth and manhandled him killing him once he got tired of hearing him rant about being a Death God.
he then back handed Hercules to new Jersey after he allowed him to punch him in the gut which he laughed and scoffed at saying his punch was weak.
defeated the avengers and then finally faced thor.. thunderstrike was distracted fighting on the astral plane as well as the physical plane w/thor. and he still was beating the snot out of thor.
thunderstrike finally asserted enough control on the astral plane to defeat the axes influence and stop fighting thor.
he turned on himself..
thor had only bn fighting a portion of thunderstrike/bloodstrike hence, why he lasted in the fight.
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Originally posted by "Id"no one is calling foul.. they are asking for feats to back up their claim..
Of course members can bring up Thunderstrike blasting a so called Skyfather rank characters. But the moment someone brings up Lobo mutilating Gods in Heavens realm un aided, they cry foul play despite “Lobo Back” being referenced in mainstream comics. facepalm
lobo killed some gods but they were weak gods.. it could have easily bn random asgardian god power lvl..
its like saying task master wins b/c he killed a god or Mr. X wins b/c they can kill gods.
those gods didnt know they were in a fight and were scared of lobo.. so what odin can be killed unceremoniously if he doesnt know he is in a fight and die mundanely.. different matter if he is reffed up and ready to fight tossing magic around and amped.
