Max punisher did execute a crooked cop recently and IIRC ennis' punisher had an autmatic machine gun rip two corrupt policemen who arrested him to shreds. Still, if they're clean, he's not killing them even if it means he'll die. If he does cause the death of someone he deems inocent, he's likely to commit suicde.
Originally posted by 753
Meh, the hood is unimpressive ad he didn't know how to spring the trap.
Nah The Hood is impressive hes the new KP you don't get there by sucking. Joker is overated and by large isn't more than a city threat. He didn't know how to spring the trap? What on earth are you talking about?
Originally posted by Parmaniac
Well he had help from Dormammu.
True but thats part of his power set that makes him a formidable opponent. The Hood has also used his wits to stop Dorammu from controlling him. So the Hood isn't Dorammus yes man.
Apparently he had to steal some stuff from a demon first...don't know how that went though.
Originally posted by Deadline
Nah The Hood is impressive hes the new KP you don't get there by sucking. Joker is overated and by large isn't more than a city threat. He didn't know how to spring the trap? What on earth are you talking about?
The joker has made himself into a cosmic threat and steals nuclear weapons whenever he wants to. He limits the scale of his operations to Gotham because it amuses him.
The reason for stealing his family's remains in the scenario I wrote is to lure him out, but the hood actually managed to capture frank and could have decapitated him, instead, he had to make a ritual to ressurect his family and make him suffer. Instead of killing him already or injecting him with coma inducing drugs to present him to osbourne, he decides to make some drama with his magical powers. Pathetic levels of CIS
Originally posted by 753
The joker has made himself into a cosmic threat
He was in the right place at the right time.
Originally posted by 753
and steals nuclear weapons whenever he wants to.
Big deal.
Originally posted by 753
He limits the scale of his operations to Gotham because it amuses him.
Yeah I know Jason Todd and Azreal are both cosmic level threats.
Originally posted by 753
The reason for stealing his family's remains in the scenario I wrote is to lure him out, but the hood actually managed to capture frank and could have decapitated him, instead, he had to make a ritual to ressurect his family and make him suffer. Instead of killing him already or injecting him with coma inducing drugs to present him to osbourne, he decides to make some drama with his magical powers. Pathetic levels of CIS
Yeah Punisher did well considering the circumstances. All villains have CIS.
Originally posted by DeadlineAnd he made it happen.
He was in the right place at the right time.
Much bigger than punisher's level of operation indeed.Big deal.
Your phrase has some meaning anywhere?
Yeah I know Jason Todd and Azreal are both cosmic level threats.
Joker kidnaps the president of the USA whenever he feels like doing it. He gets off on runnig gotham and tormenting batman.
And that's why Joker operates at the level he does. Because it suits him.
Yeah Punisher did well considering the circumstances. All villains have CIS.
Now, the joker is more likely go for the kill against punisher as he probably won't develop the same fascination he did with batman.
Originally posted by 753
And he made it happen.
Unless Mxy hadn't turned up he wouldnt have done it. Mr Mxy has never been known for being highly intelligent.
Originally posted by 753
Much bigger than punisher's level of operation indeed.
Wrong. Punisher has stole a nuke and has stated he can get his hands on plutonuim.
Originally posted by 753
Your phrase has some meaning anywhere?
The point is you are exaggerating.
Originally posted by 753
Joker kidnaps the president of the USA whenever he feels like doing it. He gets off on runnig gotham and tormenting batman.
...and Punisher has broken into The White House and threatened The President. Next.
Originally posted by 753
And that's why Joker operates at the level he does. Because it suits him.
Considering that Jason Todd and Azreal have beaten him I don't think so. You are making assumptions.
Originally posted by 753
Now, the joker is more likely go for the kill against punisher as he probably won't develop the same fascination he did with batman.
Doesnt mean hes going to get the kill.
Originally posted by SamZED
TBH Hood is a joke compared to Joker. Even Dormammu possesed Hood.
Dorammu is a skyfather lvl being. Hood has pitted his wits against Dormy.
Originally posted by SamZED
Joker may not be universal threat but he's definitely a threat to the world whenever he feels like it. Example - Last laugh. 5 minutes of prep and global chaos. But he chooses to limit himself to Gotham and batfamily.
So how many times has he been able to do that? There was also CIS he thought he was going to die.
Originally posted by DeadlineDormamu is a skyfather level being, true. But Dormammu possesed Hood isnt. Hood was pretty much Dormy's pawn and he didnt even know that until Dormy chose to show himself. In the end of the day he pretty much was Osborn's lapdog.
Dorammu is a skyfather lvl being. Hood has pitted his wits against Dormy.
Originally posted by DeadlineHow does it make it any less true? He found out that he's dying and instantly caused chaos all over the world. Simply because this time he FELT like it while normally he chooses to play in Gotham. Also if you remember the story causing chaos was never his real goal but just a small part of a plan. Joker is a world-wide threat because he would've destroyed the world several times over if it wasnt for Batman and his CIS concerning Batman. (because he had like few dozen opportunities to kill Bruce)
So how many times has he been able to do that? There was also CIS he thought he was going to die.
Originally posted by Deadlineso what? if beyonder ahdnt shown up, doom wouldnt have syphoned his power either. Joker managed to do it.
Unless Mxy hadn't turned up he wouldnt have done it. Mr Mxy has never been known for being highly intelligent.
when was this? you mean that ennis arc in which he conveniently stumbles upon one?
Wrong. Punisher has stole a nuke and has stated he can get his hands on plutonuim.
No, I'm not. He's way smarter and a much better prepper than castle.
The point is you are exaggerating.
Actually abducting him would have been more impressive. Also, the president was luthor, who's a genius supervillain in his own right. Way more impressive.
...and Punisher has broken into The White House and threatened The President. Next.
lulz punisher has been taken down by so many d-listers it's not even funny. He routinely gets captured and KOed by his enemies. Furthermore, the joker is usually not portrayed as a combat type, he's a strategist.
Considering that Jason Todd and Azreal have beaten him I don't think so. You are making assumptions.
More often than not, it does
Doesnt mean hes going to get the kill.
Originally posted by 753
Joker can definitely taike the punisher down, but not with this "he decides to play with him" BS.In a serious war, in which they're both out to get each other, he could, for instance, rob frank's family's corpses and put on a televised marionette show with their bones to lure frank out. Then he explodes a 20 block area to get castle when the perimeter guards at the site of the show stop checking in with him every 3 minutes.
The thing is that the joker would find frank boring and probably just ignore him. In the first oportunity frank ever gets however, he'll blow the joker's head off. A serious war could be a split.
It could go this way, or Frank could just blow the hell out of where Joker is.
After all, Frank isn't above nuking his ennemies.
Originally posted by Deadline
He does, he cares alot.
I saw this scan where Punisher blows up some dude strapped with a nuke, killing thousands of innocent lives.
Some random guy in a heli with Frank said "OH NOEZ!!!11 There's innocent people down der!" and punisher said something cocky, like he didn't really give a damn.
Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygonThat island was a mercenary haven completely inhabited by war criminals and merc. If you knew anything about the character, you'd know what his perceptions on war for profit and war crimes are. He'd die before deliberately killing innocents and would commit suicide if he believed he caused an innocent to die.
No he doesn't.I saw this scan where Punisher blows up some dude strapped with a nuke, killing thousands of innocent lives.
Some random guy in a heli with Frank said "OH NOEZ!!!11 There's innocent people down der!" and punisher said something cocky, like he didn't really give a damn.
What the french soldier screams is "there are two thousand people down there" To which frank replies "no, there aren't". They don't even mention the word inoccent.
Read comics instead of posting out of your ass after reading scans.