Originally posted by SurturWell look at the person you're using to base it off of. It's not like a bunch of people put forth good arguments as to why that's the case. Board Walker said something dumb, no need to react like it's of merit.
Beats me, but someone in the thread said he wasn't. I've seen people argue Karate Kid is just some street leveler or something today, so anything is possible.He can't bust a universe at will. He wasn't even killing Superboy, the blast he hit him with that Superboy said "hurt" seemed nuke sized, not even a planet buster. Then Superboy busted up his suit and he exploded and took out the universe.
The debate should really about what Odin does to protect himself once he destroys Monarch and the dude begins exploding. Thor can dimension dump with his hammer, I'd assume Odin can?
Originally posted by Surtur
Beats me, but someone in the thread said he wasn't. I've seen people argue Karate Kid is just some street leveler or something today, so anything is possible.He can't bust a universe at will. He wasn't even killing Superboy, the blast he hit him with that Superboy said "hurt" seemed nuke sized, not even a planet buster. Then Superboy busted up his suit and he exploded and took out the universe.
The debate should really about what Odin does to protect himself once he destroys Monarch and the dude begins exploding. Thor can dimension dump with his hammer, I'd assume Odin can?
Guardian amped prime was himself borderline skyfather level at that point, Monarch was toying with him the whole time.
Originally posted by abhilegendOdin's feats. Monarch was toying with him but even Superboy Prime strength was enough to get the job done. Odin's a lot more powerful and his head butt would crush that suit wide open.
Why would Odin be able to destroy Monarch's suit?Guardian amped prime was himself borderline skyfather level at that point, Monarch was toying with him the whole time.
Odin's best option in a forum setting would likely be to try and critically rupture Monarch's armor right at the onset. Granted, the subsequent [universe-busting] detonation would undoubtedly kill him, but it still counts as a forum victory on KMC... However, rupturing Monarch's armor to the point of complete failure is easier said then done, as it is insanely durable.
Case in point: a casual blast of HV from a tremendously weakened SBP went through Superman himself like a hot knife through butter:
Flip side, Monarch's armor outright TANKED a blast of HV from an enraged GA Prime, without enduring so much as a scratch:
For a point of reference: casual HV from GA Prime was capable of slagging the phucking Source Wall:
That said, for Odin to even think about rupturing Monarch's armor to the point of *critical failure*(key words, as minor damage to the armor doesn't mean a damn thing) means he either has to generate an energy attack >>>> an enraged GA Prime's HV, OR produce physical strength no less than equal to an enraged Prime's final "I'M SUPERMAN!!!!" tantrum-tear... Not saying it's impossible; just saying that it certainly wouldn't be easy considering the armor's durability(most people just don't realize how strong it actually was.) 🙂
Originally posted by Galan007
Odin's best option in a forum setting would likely be to try and critically rupture Monarch's armor right at the onset. Granted, the subsequent [universe-busting] detonation would undoubtedly kill him, but it still counts as a forum victory on KMC... However, rupturing Monarch's armor to the point of complete failure is easier said then done, as it is insanely durable.Case in point: a casual blast of HV from a tremendously weakened SBP went through Superman himself like a hot knife through butter:
Flip side, Monarch's armor outright TANKED a blast of HV from an enraged GA Prime, without enduring so much as a scratch:
For a point of reference: casual HV from GA Prime was capable of slagging the phucking Source Wall:
That said, for Odin to even think about rupturing Monarch's armor to the point of *critical failure*(key words, as minor damage to the armor doesn't mean a damn thing) means he either has to generate an energy attack >>>> an enraged GA Prime's HV, OR produce physical strength no less than equal to an enraged Prime's final "I'M SUPERMAN!!!!" tantrum-tear... Not saying it's impossible; just saying that it certainly wouldn't be easy considering the armor's durability(most people just don't realize how strong it actually was.) 🙂
Even more beastly is breaking three force fields created by Brainiac 5s in LO3W.
Originally posted by abhilegend
It really isn't impressive when it comes to above herald tier beings.I disagree about SBP in trans tier. He is absolutely skyfather level in raw power. Just look at Sodam Yat, he has Ion and then absorbs the power of hundreds of GL rings to fight Prime.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-flhP41-fnw0/VjOah1vEWFI/AAAAAAARvr8/oP3p5C7pTfA/s1600/25_02.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-jhMjbHVeOO0/VjOaiKAlktI/AAAAAAARvrk/2y_0YYerwmU/s1600/25_03.jpgHe is beaten alongside entire Legion casually.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Mj0FKoIblzM/VjOar7H-EOI/AAAAAAARvuM/BmiIRkP4_OY/s1600/25_22.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-9sdZc2xmXAU/VjOasUZLhwI/AAAAAAARvuE/gSb2x1K51YA/s1600/25_24.jpgEven after he was essentially going bloodlusted.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-xvykCIyzHhU/VjOayIDBUmI/AAAAAAARvvc/sqhPDdlwf30/s1600/26_08.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-fRlDCyEdg0s/VjOa09nCf1I/AAAAAAARvwI/3R45iX_idYg/s1600/26_12.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-udDYJXyqkX0/VjOa2e9SEII/AAAAAAARvwo/aiVlGyE1LF8/s1600/26_16.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-BB62yxozuAE/VjOa2_oI_dI/AAAAAAARvw0/qOc6Z88cgzY/s1600/26_18.jpghttp://2.bp.blogspot.com/--6Xk7pCDJE0/VjOa4e8jhPI/AAAAAAARvxc/X5CVXf5Kn5k/s1600/26_21.jpg
Again three versions of Legion along with Sodam pile on SBP and they get his asses kicked.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-5xOm3JNjRGw/VjOa7ssSowI/AAAAAAARvx8/iv8D4czLN1M/s1600/26_27.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-1UghjOT_9_I/VjOa7zvXB6I/AAAAAAARvyM/5YHiTg2jlOg/s1600/26_28.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-8ZrYZFul7vI/VjOa_tOkySI/AAAAAAARvyk/R3BxCXEf6Nc/s1600/27_02.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-smpo-vFnOzQ/VjOa_0aQ1KI/AAAAAAARvy0/G2Of04GrPgU/s1600/27_03.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-0JG6X_F1cPM/VjObAWPqgGI/AAAAAAARvys/0woOieL1188/s1600/27_04.jpgDestroyer would be a pile of scrap under such power.
Heck he overpowered Superman, Andromeda and M'onel while two cosmic boys tried to restrain him and he was drained by Sun Boy.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-V2kOyS9udZQ/VjOaqV5GctI/AAAAAAARvts/m0yGsYUOZsI/s1600/25_20.jpg
And then went on to destroy three shields created by Brainiac fives after being further drained by Shadow Lass. Not even Time Trapper or Mordru has ever broken one.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Mj0FKoIblzM/VjOar7H-EOI/AAAAAAARvuM/BmiIRkP4_OY/s1600/25_22.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-cZuzVO-fW3c/VjOasLP32CI/AAAAAAARvuA/LW-qlEy5zHs/s1600/25_23.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-9sdZc2xmXAU/VjOasUZLhwI/AAAAAAARvuE/gSb2x1K51YA/s1600/25_24.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-g2F7D1eZ310/VjOat3r6nLI/AAAAAAARvu0/Iq5EUv75ueA/s1600/25_25.jpgNobody short of a skyfather has a chance against SBP in a straight up fight. You have to lowball every single character in Legion, Superman, Green Lanterns etc to even argue SBP is a trans tier.
Glorith with the power of Time Trapper couldn't break one force field created by Brainy.
