I don't want to have to explain this agaaaaaaaaain.
Starfire has class 100 feats. Carol, sans amping, doesn't.
Starfire's projectile has shattered mountains and wrecked Braniac's ship. Carol's tend to be ineffective.
Starfire as energy absorption too, and has drained Kryptonian's of their energy sources.
Starfire can take a puncture wound clear through her shoulder and walk around like it didn't happen.
Starfire defeated the entire island of Themyschera in a fighting tournament.
Most people out of touch with the "recent" (that is, roughly past 15 years) of Titans history tend to still picture Starfire as she was in the 80's, even if not entirely familiar with her then, either; Kory is one tough bytch, and at the very least a match for Carol.
I'd go with Kory, as she has better fighting skills and is much more aggressive. Not a slam, by any means, and Carol can get some wins, but Kory pretty much takes this.
Originally posted by Konton
I don't want to have to explain this agaaaaaaaaain.Starfire has class 100 feats. Carol, sans amping, doesn't.
Starfire's projectile has shattered mountains and wrecked Braniac's ship. Carol's tend to be ineffective.
Starfire as energy absorption too, and has drained Kryptonian's of their energy sources.
Starfire can take a puncture wound clear through her shoulder and walk around like it didn't happen.
Starfire defeated the entire island of Themyschera in a fighting tournament.
At the moment, Ms. Marvel possesses incredible superhuman strength and durability, can fly at roughly half the speed of sound and discharge explosive blasts of radiant energy, which she fires from her fingertips.
She also demonstrates the ability to absorb other forms of energy, such as electricity, to further magnify her strength and energy projection, up to the force of an exploding nuclear weapon. When sufficiently augmented, she can withstand the pressure from a 92-ton weight, and strike with a similar level of force, although Hank Pym theorized that this likely was not her limit.
I don't see how Starfire dominates her, I do however see that Starfire would empower her if she blasted her with energy.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
I hope you mean half the speed of light, because there are WWII era prop-driven fighter planes that could fly faster than 1/2 the speed of sound.
Nope I mean half the speed of sound, speed isn't everything, and I won't give her more than she's currently is listed at. However she was moving at light speed when she was connected to the white hole, the more power she drains the faster she becomes, but at her base/current levels that's all she can muster. Like I said before Starfire would empower her with he blasts, which would not only increase her strength and speed, but it was also increase her durability.
This would in no way would be a stomp for either. Actually Starfire seems to be a the closest character in DC to compare Ms. Marvel to based on power-set. I think Carol would get the upper hand because of energy drain though.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Wow..half the speed of sound. That's really pathetic.If that's true no wonder Ms Marvel gets no respect.
Lol yea you have a point, but the cool thing about Carol is that she doesn't have a cap on her power levels, she's an energy leech. Marvel should begin fleshing out this ability more often, because technically she has enormous potential to be a high herald type character, her Binary form is a clear indication to this theory.
If Starfire goes all-out on the blasting, then Carol can out-amp her and win, but if she doesn't Kori should win in melee on skill.
Originally posted by Konton
Starfire defeated the entire island of Themyschera in a fighting tournament.
I don't think she fought the real badasses (Diana, Artemis, Hippolyta), but yea, she won a tournament there.
Originally posted by SasuOna
Its not like she hasn't beaten Donna before or fought Wonder Woman to a standstill.
Oh wait she has......
yeah Carol really doesn't have a chance
It's not like Carol remains at the same level after she absorbs energy, just look at what she did to Sentry.... Oh wait, she can absorb energy, and grow stronger?
Kory doesn't stand a chance.
Originally posted by SasuOna
half the speed of sound...........
Her speed, strength, and durability grow in direct proportion to the energy that she leeches. Also there have been many occasions where characters that could not fly have fought, and whipped characters that could. Should I bust out the examples?
Also, it's not as if Kory fights in hyper speed? Ms. Marvel is also a very capable fighter, unlike many supers that rely solely on their speed and power to get them through. She was trained by shield in different forms on unarmed combat.
Originally posted by SasuOna
Its not like she hasn't beaten Donna before or fought Wonder Woman to a standstill.
Oh wait she has......
yeah Carol really doesn't have a chance
Beaten Donna, yes, but it's more "held off WW for a bit," than to a standstill in my book.
Still, beaten Donna! Donna's both stronger than Carol and very good in HtH.
Stoic
It's not like Carol remains at the same level after she absorbs energy, just look at what she did to Sentry.... Oh wait, she can absorb energy, and grow stronger?Kory doesn't stand a chance.
That's only if Kory pumps her up that far. If Kory realizes that starbolts amp her and goes to melee, Starfire'll have the solid edge.
Originally posted by Stoic
Also, it's not as if Kory fights in hyper speed? Ms. Marvel is also a very capable fighter, unlike many supers that rely solely on their speed and power to get them through. She was trained by shield in different forms on unarmed combat.
Ms Marvel is a capable fighter but shes no where near the level of Kory,Donna, or Dianna. Its like your saying the average SHIELD agent can hang with Shang chi in a fight.
Not necessarily, Carol is an accomplished martial artist (she was trained by shield) at that level of power, nerve blows are quite potent. Ms. Marvel isn't a chump, she took out Mr. Fixit with a couple punches, this would make her close to class 100 at base levels. Meaning that a minor spike in her energy levels would make class 100 in no time, if we go with the example of her Binary form.
This is not a stomp for either, nor should anyone make it seem like it would be. They would both have to work for any win, and honestly I think Carol has better durability than Kory to begin with.
Nah not a stomp at all.