Originally posted by carver9So mile wide area equals a planet busting punch now?
Ummm, yes it did. At one point the punches were so hard that it was creating an explosion... lighting up the sky. Then we have his punches sending visible shockwaves across namek which sent bulma flying. Then we have goku and frieza colliding fist which resulted in a tremendous explosion and please don't say that I'm lying when I have seen dbz far more than you and know each episode by heart. Let's not even use super saiyan 2 goku punching feat when him and buu leveled an entire area by just punch each other. That punch alone was so powerful that they didn't even touch the surface of the planet but the power behind it created large mountains and hills. I feel pretty safe to say that the punch would have destroed the planet if it connected.
Originally posted by Black bolt z
I still don't want to spam the nominations thread so i'll still quote you here.So busting a galaxy is hype?Tanking hits from high end class 100's is hype?
When Goku arrived at this "busted" Galaxy he visited one of the planets and not only was the planet still intact but the cities were still recognizable.
They're not high end Cl 100s.
Originally posted by Omega VisionYou once said that it would take a couple hundred years to ravage the planets all at once.We know as a fact it wasn't that long.And king kai even said that suddenly the(western I think it was)galaxy disappeared.
He didn't bust a galaxy. He [b]ravaged a Galaxy, one planet at a time for all we know.When Goku arrived at this "busted" Galaxy he visited one of the planets and not only was the planet still intact but the cities were still recognizable.
They're not high end Cl 100s. [/B]
See above
I see a super sayian 2 as being high herald.Singular punches have destroyed miles of land.They are high class 100.
See I want to see them higher then they are but not near to the degree that carver does.Carver thinks pre SS goku is trans when I see a SS3 as trans.
Right...I guess I'm confused because the Galaxy was shown to be intact (but lifeless) when Goku visited it.
High Heralds destroy moons and planets with punches. The Z Fighters simply aren't comparable to guys like Superman or Thor in terms of strength or durability.
Here's the thing: can you prove the movie is even canon to the Anime? Because if it isn't then the only feats you can use are those that happen in the movie.
Originally posted by Black bolt z
So mile wide area equals a planet busting punch now?
No... what equals a planet destroying punch is when two people are punching EACH OTHER, didn't even touch the planet and it destroys a large chunk of a planet that is 3 times the size of earth and the punch then creates an explosion around their body which disrupts the planet and cause an area and landscape to form mountains and large hills and again THE PUNCH DIDN'T EVEN CONNECT TO THE PLANET. That feat alone is in the quazillion strength range. Yes... it would have destroyed the planet.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Right...I guess I'm confused because the Galaxy was shown to be intact (but lifeless) when Goku visited it.High Heralds destroy moons and planets with punches. The Z Fighters simply aren't comparable to guys like Superman or Thor in terms of strength or durability.
Here's the thing: can you prove the movie is even canon to the Anime? Because if it isn't then the only feats you can use are those that happen in the movie.
Aaahhh... so high heralds destroy moons and planets with punches? Show me thor, superman, wonder woman, black adam, captain marvel, or orion destroying a planet with a punch.
I will be waiting.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
He didn't bust a galaxy. He [b]ravaged a Galaxy, one planet at a time for all we know.When Goku arrived at this "busted" Galaxy he visited one of the planets and not only was the planet still intact but the cities were still recognizable.
They're not high end Cl 100s. [/B]
Goku as a child has a feat of moving a 600 ton rock with ease.
Do you have something against dbz characters?
Originally posted by Bentley
That logic would likely make Broli even stronger than he is, because Goku could be more powerful than Buu for all we care, Broli "destroyed" a Galaxy.
And what character on panel tried to destroy a galaxy? Supreme ki mentioned to goku and vegeta that buu destroyed a galaxy and they compared buu to frieza (which vegeta smiled at the idea of fighting buu who ki stated was a galaxy buster)... so if goku thought that frieza could destroy a galaxy and compared his power to frieza... why don't you think goku couldn't destroy one since he is far more powerful?
The sad thing is no one in DC or Marvel has ever created this kind of destruction by hitting each other and the thing about it is, even though this punch that they hit each other with was EXTREMELY destructive, they tanked it like nothing happened. That punch would have taken a couple of people heads completely off.
Please start 8 minutes and 58 seconds.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqnRjSXQrxc&feature=related
Please fast forward this to 38 seconds and look at the punch that Super Buu hit vegeto with... hmmm, I wonder how much destroy that would have done since it basically shook the entire area that they were fighting in and yet again, they didnt even touch the planet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QN89Na6ry1M
Then we have this... please fast forward to 4 minutes and 20 seconds.
Goku kicks frieza so hard through two small mountains, through nameks crust that lead to the entire area shaking... that again proves that the weakest form of Goku is high class 100 and again, no high herald has shown hitting power like this. Let me also not forget, frieza tanked this kick... didnt even have a scratch.