Cross Genre General Discussion Thread

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Originally posted by Black bolt z
No they have not moved so fast time has stopped.They even during the buu saga they were moving so fast hercule couldn't see them but he could still tell they were fighting.If they were truly fighting that fast it would never register to hercule who only has human reaction time.

Omg... frieza and goku fought so fast that time stopped. I showed to pr and he agreed. Black bolt... you know next to NOTHING about dbz so why do you debate on the characters?

Originally posted by carver9
Omg... frieza and goku fought so fast that time stopped. I showed to pr and he agreed. Black bolt... you know next to NOTHING about dbz so why do you debate on the characters?

I don't think PR agreed to anything except that the feat was unquantifiable.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
The buildings were but yeah i'd say this is right.But still galaxy wiping is still a pretty damn impressive feat correct? But odin busted the enitre galaxy.

Of course you feel safe to say that.With no evidence.

Like I said before... odin blew up a galaxy but there was still a planet left.

In the broly movie it stated what galaxy was wiped clean... king ki told goku to go to another galaxy so that THAT galaxy will not suffer the same fate.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
I don't think PR agreed to anything except that the feat was unquantifiable.

No... I showed him and he said that superman can do the same thing.. I asked him to prove it and he said that if superman was an anime character he would be doing the same things.

Originally posted by carver9
No... I showed him and he said that superman can do the same thing.. I asked him to prove it and he said that if superman was an anime character he would be doing the same things.

Yeah, see your arguments are based on how things look rather than how they are.

Originally posted by carver9
Well odin hit someone with a galaxy destroying blast and the planet that they we're fighting on suffered no damage so I guess odin isn't a galaxy buster and I feel safe to say that the planet broly was on was in a different galaxy.

I know very little about Odin. I'm just going based on what others have said, though I have seen the Broly movies once. I don't really think Odin has much bearing on what Broly can bust, though. And do we know for sure if that planet Broly was fought on was in the galaxy bust?

The buildings were but yeah i'd say this is right.But still galaxy wiping is still a pretty damn impressive feat correct?

That depends on what you want to do with it. Say Broly hits someone with the same attack that he used on whatever galaxy. He's still only hitting them with something that couldn't destroy buildings. He isn't hitting hitting them with a galaxy buster, since most of the energy isn't hitting them as it's too busy hitting the galaxy.

If he was focusing the entire galaxy wiping amount of power into one small point, it would be much more effective.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Yeah, see your arguments are based on how things look rather than how they are.

I agree to some extent. If a character is fighting so fast that time arounf them completely stops then they are on another level. If people like roshi have nano second feats (which was shown when him and krillin blitzed each other and in less than a second they punched a couple of times, jumped in the air with drop kicks, played a couple of games of rock, paper, scissors, taunt each other a couple of times... and again, this happened in less than a second) in his fight against krillin and roshi admitting at the vlast tourny that goku was much faster than him and that he can't keep up... yes, I am gong to think he is a light speed character before dbz.

Originally posted by carver9
Omg... frieza and goku fought so fast that time stopped. I showed to pr and he agreed. Black bolt... you know next to NOTHING about dbz so why do you debate on the characters?
No they did not.I just watched the freiza saga a month ago.This never happened.They were fighting at probably at minimum 20x normal time but not so fast time stopped.

And yes I know much about DBZ.I'm just not a fanboy to it like you.

Originally posted by carver9
Like I said before... odin blew up a galaxy but there was still a planet left.

In the broly movie it stated what galaxy was wiped clean... king ki told goku to go to another galaxy so that THAT galaxy will not suffer the same fate.

Yeah...the planet he was on.And he still didn't destroy the planet.But wiping it of life is impressive.

OK...so...

Originally posted by carver9
I agree to some extent. If a character is fighting so fast that time arounf them completely stops then they are on another level. If people like roshi have nano second feats (which was shown when him and krillin blitzed each other and in less than a second they punched a couple of times, jumped in the air with drop kicks, played a couple of games of rock, paper, scissors, taunt each other a couple of times... and again, this happened in less than a second) in his fight against krillin and roshi admitting at the vlast tourny that goku was much faster than him and that he can't keep up... yes, I am gong to think he is a light speed character before dbz.

You realize that it is very easy to be vastly faster than a hypersonic character without even approaching 10% light speed right?

You severely underestimate the speed of light. No one in DBZ has a legit FTL feat.

Originally posted by The Scenario
I know very little about Odin. I'm just going based on what others have said, though I have seen the Broly movies once. I don't really think Odin has much bearing on what Broly can bust, though. And do we know for sure if that planet Broly was fought on was in the galaxy bust?

That depends on what you want to do with it. Say Broly hits someone with the same attack that he used on whatever galaxy. He's still only hitting them with something that couldn't destroy buildings. He isn't hitting hitting them with a galaxy buster, since most of the energy isn't hitting them as it's too busy hitting the galaxy.

If he was focusing the entire galaxy wiping amount of power into one small point, it would be much more effective.

This didn't make sense especially since we seen numerous of planets disappearing. By the way... I think brolly hit goku with stronger attacks than the one he used to shred a galaxy.

Originally posted by carver9
think brolly hit goku with stronger attacks than the one he used to shred a galaxy.

Any actual basis for this or are you just saying that?

Originally posted by The Scenario
I know very little about Odin. I'm just going based on what others have said, though I have seen the Broly movies once. I don't really think Odin has much bearing on what Broly can bust, though. And do we know for sure if that planet Broly was fought on was in the galaxy bust?

That depends on what you want to do with it. Say Broly hits someone with the same attack that he used on whatever galaxy. He's still only hitting them with something that couldn't destroy buildings. He isn't hitting hitting them with a galaxy buster, since most of the energy isn't hitting them as it's too busy hitting the galaxy.

If he was focusing the entire galaxy wiping amount of power into one small point, it would be much more effective.

Odin would own broly worse then he would owned thanos.

Exactly.The more spread out your attack is the less powerful it is.I agree with this.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
No they did not.I just watched the freiza saga a month ago.This never happened.They were fighting at probably at minimum 20x normal time but not so fast time stopped.

And yes I know much about DBZ.I'm just not a fanboy to it like you.

Black bolt... let's make a deal. If I show you goku and frieza fighting so fast that time stop I don't want you EVER bringing or commenting on anything dbz related bc this would prove that you know nothing on the characters.

Is this a deal?

Originally posted by carver9
I agree to some extent. If a character is fighting so fast that time arounf them completely stops then they are on another level. If people like roshi have nano second feats (which was shown when him and krillin blitzed each other and in less than a second they punched a couple of times, jumped in the air with drop kicks, played a couple of games of rock, paper, scissors, taunt each other a couple of times... and again, this happened in less than a second) in his fight against krillin and roshi admitting at the vlast tourny that goku was much faster than him and that he can't keep up... yes, I am gong to think he is a light speed character before dbz.
You do relize that doing all that in less then a second proably isn't 1/1,000,000th the speed of light right?
Originally posted by Omega Vision
You realize that it is very easy to be vastly faster than a hypersonic character without even approaching 10% light speed right?

You severely underestimate the speed of light. No one in DBZ has a legit FTL feat.

I agree with this
Originally posted by carver9
This didn't make sense especially since we seen numerous of planets disappearing. By the way... I think brolly hit goku with stronger attacks than the one he used to shred a galaxy.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Any actual basis for this or are you just saying that?
Probably none.

Originally posted by carver9
Black bolt... let's make a deal. If I show you goku and frieza fighting so fast that time stop I don't want you EVER bringing or commenting on anything dbz related bc this would prove that you know nothing on the characters.

Is this a deal?

No.Considering this never happened.They never fought that fast.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
You realize that it is very easy to be vastly faster than a hypersonic character without even approaching 10% light speed right?

You severely underestimate the speed of light. No one in DBZ has a legit FTL feat.

I know exactly how fast the speed of light is 186000 mps and like I said if someone is at least 10 times faster than someone who has nano seconds feat... they are approaching light speed.

Originally posted by carver9
I know exactly how fast the speed of light is 186000 mps and like I said if someone is at least 10 times faster than someone who has nano seconds feat... they are approaching light speed.
Except that what krillian and roshi did wasn't non seconds.Mili seconds sure but thats not close to nano.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
No.Considering this never happened.They never fought that fast.

If you believe in your words then make the deal. You also said that burta didn't have time stopping feats and I busted you out and proved you wrong. Let's make the deal or please be quiet (I wanted to say something else).

Originally posted by carver9
If you believe in your words then make the deal. You also said that burta didn't have time stopping feats and I busted you out and proved you wrong. Let's make the deal or please be quiet (I wanted to say something else).
I never said burtal didn't have time stopping feats.And that wasn't combat that was flight.