Basically, this is Thor/BA vs SM/WW.
Interesting thread. Hmmm.... Anyway, to me it really comes down to how long can Wondy keep Clark around is the question.
His vulnerability to magic and a hammer is a problem here. WW can easily hang with BRB. Supes needs to fight this at super speed to have a chance and go for a quick elimination of BRB, and a 2 on 1 on BA could result. The longer BRB stays around, the better Supes can be eliminated.
However, the lasso could play a HUGE role here. If she's able to snare one of 'em, easy 2 on 1 the other way.
Lots of outcomes to consider.
That's my take.
Originally posted by BobbyD
Basically, this is Thor/BA vs SM/WW.Interesting thread. Hmmm.... Anyway, to me it really comes down to how long can Wondy keep Clark around is the question.
His vulnerability to magic and a hammer is a problem here. WW can easily hang with BRB. Supes needs to fight this at super speed to have a chance and go for a quick elimination of BRB, and a 2 on 1 on BA could result. The longer BRB stays around, the better Supes can be eliminated.
However, the lasso could play a HUGE role here. If she's able to snare one of 'em, easy 2 on 1 the other way.
Lots of outcomes to consider.
That's my take.
Correct.
Originally posted by BobbyD
Basically, this is Thor/BA vs SM/WW.Interesting thread. Hmmm.... Anyway, to me it really comes down to how long can Wondy keep Clark around is the question.
His vulnerability to magic and a hammer is a problem here. WW can easily hang with BRB. Supes needs to fight this at super speed to have a chance and go for a quick elimination of BRB, and a 2 on 1 on BA could result. The longer BRB stays around, the better Supes can be eliminated.
However, the lasso could play a HUGE role here. If she's able to snare one of 'em, easy 2 on 1 the other way.
Lots of outcomes to consider.
That's my take.
Good post...
I disagree with one thing though. Beta ray bill is far more dangerous than thor... at the beginning of the match he is going straight for the kill. Hell, I would say bill is more dangerous than black adam. There has never been a time (beside him fighting thor) where he didn't start a fight off trying to kill his opponent right off the bat.
Wonder woman and superman are going to have to start off at their top game right at the beginning if they plan on lasting in a fight against these two.
Re: beta ray bill/black adam vs superman/wonder woman
Originally posted by carver9
Who win?
IMO BRB>Thor.
With that said team 2 wins the large majority if Superman fought BRB and WW fought BA. 10/10 for team 1
If Superman fights BA then fight will last longer. WW beats BRB in no time with some counters and pressure point attacks. Then she comes to join Superman to easily beat BA. 8/10 for team 1
Averaging it out I would say 9/10 for team 1.
Re: Re: beta ray bill/black adam vs superman/wonder woman
Originally posted by h1a8
IMO BRB>Thor.With that said team 2 wins the large majority if Superman fought BRB and WW fought BA. 10/10 for team 1
If Superman fights BA then fight will last longer. WW beats BRB in no time with some counters and pressure point attacks. Then she comes to join Superman to easily beat BA. 8/10 for team 1
Averaging it out I would say 9/10 for team 1.
Ah, but there's a trump trick WW is capable of playing:
*Lasso around BA* "What's your transformation word?"
And she knows to do this, her lasso's been used in this fashion before.
Team 1.
I do think that BRB packs more power that Wonder Woman, and so is Black Adam. Superman would be the strongest character on the field, with all the other being close second.
But team 1 wins, and hard, because:
- Team 1 is just plainly ruthless, like, Black Adam is almost a psychopath. I don't think team 2 will go for the kill (Wonder Woman will maybe go for it, but I'm sure as hell she won't start in that mood) while team 1 will immediatly go for it;
- Sups has no resistance against magic, which sucks because his two opponents are backed with it;
- BRB can bfr
- Team 1 is just plainly ruthless, like, Black Adam is almost a psychopath. I don't think team 2 will go for the kill (Wonder Woman will maybe go for it, but I'm sure as hell she won't start in that mood) while team 1 will immediatly go for it;
I don't think that's much of an advantage. Sure, Supes and Diana won't be going for the kill, but they know BA at least is *very* hard to kill, and 'pummel at full strength until unconscious' isn't going to kill him. So it's not like going for the kill or not affects their offensive level.
Originally posted by Q99
I don't think that's much of an advantage. Sure, Supes and Diana won't be going for the kill, but they know BA at least is *very* hard to kill, and 'pummel at full strength until unconscious' isn't going to kill him. So it's not like going for the kill or not affects their offensive level.
Agreed, but it meant that BA and BRB will do the sort of things that will incapacitate the fastest their opponents.
Originally posted by Bouboumaster
Team 1.I do think that BRB packs more power that Wonder Woman, and so is Black Adam. Superman would be the strongest character on the field, with all the other being close second.
But team 1 wins, and hard, because:
- Team 1 is just plainly ruthless, like, Black Adam is almost a psychopath. I don't think team 2 will go for the kill (Wonder Woman will maybe go for it, but I'm sure as hell she won't start in that mood) while team 1 will immediatly go for it;
- Sups has no resistance against magic, which sucks because his two opponents are backed with it;
- BRB can bfr
Superman has hella resistance to magic. Where you been? He isn't as resistant as WW but he is indeed very resistant. He has the feats to prove it. Phantom Stranger even gave him a shield that made him very resistant to magic as well.
Although BRB would not be going for the kill and neither would BA, who cares about going for the kill? The key here is speed. Speed would win the majority for team 2. Your argument is saying that since Joker is out to kill then he would beat flash in a straight fight after the bell. Faulty.
Originally posted by CosmicCometYou right if we are talking about a normal holding back Superman. Him and BA would be about equals. But when the sh!t hits the fan he would surpass BA.
Nah. Supes doesn't hold a physical strength advantage over Adam. And not too much over BRB. I'd say Wondy is around 80-85% of Supes' strength though.
WW, although weaker, would get a majority against all contestants here (even Superman) by simply countering his attack masterfully with a pressure point strike or masterful combo.