Beta Ray Bill vs WWHulk

Started by Stoic7 pages

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
You're the one switching up the story. At the start of these debate, it was about Stormbreaker, not Godhunter. You're the one who's bringing up Godhunter part when when the feat referred to has been about Stormbreaker. What do you think Warlock was referring when he says "all the damage occured when they COLLIDED with one another." The only instance when they collided and destroyed a planet was in Stormbreaker. In God hunter, Bill smacked SD into the planet and then followed up with another hammer strike that created a crater. Don't mix this debate with that BRB Vs Black Adam one where you had no inkling that BRB and SD had a second rematch until somebody pointed out Godhunter to you.

No it wasn't. I brought up the planet destroying attack first, which I was clearly talking about Godhunter, not Stormbreaker which is not the current Bill, but the old one who lost his cyborg body and was transported into a dead homeless mans body, by a higher power in the form of a woman. Check out the Stormbreaker mini, and you will see that canonically, the Bill that you were using from Stormbreaker is not Bill in his current state.

Lol. Maybe you should stick to the feats people are bringing up instead of switching box and then calling people liars. And technically nothing, how is it the wrong Bill? Would you like to provide evidence that it's a different Bill in Godhunter and Stormbreaker?

Read what I wrote above. You at least should know the character who you're repping.

How can you say it's anything comparable to what Bill went through? You act as if HT and Storm is anything comparable to Stardust's attack or Thor's. Bill fight and stalemated Thor a true top tier. He takes attacks from what's likely the second most power herald and comes back for more. HT and Storm are mid tier at best.

A weaker Hulk stalemated Thor, Professor Hulk in a calm state matched him in the antarctic, not a big deal. Just remember that, that was also a weaker Hulk than WW Hulk.

Black Bolt Skrull did what again? Could've shattered the moon vs Bill smashing SD through a planet?

What I said in a retraction (stay current please or this will take more time than I have) was that if Black Bolts doppelganger (skrull) had continued his assault, that he had the power to destroy the moon. While keeping in mind that in Godhunter Bill didn't destroy the planetoid, Skuttlebut did. Judging by the amount of destruction that his first assault caused I am well justified in stating such. Do you get it now?

Well great. Hulk held a planet together. Now he should have enough power to take on Bill who took a shot from Galactus and got up from it, smashed SD into a planet and busted, and smashed into the core of another planet to get up and fight some more.

Planetoid. The fact is, that on panel every planet that Bill destroyed, appeared to be smaller than the moon, check for yourself, I did.

Means that Bill can call on lightning storm to put Hulk down and smash Hulk's head in at the same time Hulk is charging at him. Bill isn't going to be stupid and slug it out with Hulk. It's called multitasking.

Bullshyt! Thor has hit the Hulk with lightening more than once (weaker Hulk), and he was just fine, the Hulk has had his flesh almost completely removed from his skeleton and he was fine. Bill has yet to prove that he can put the Hulk down, when the Hulk can regen from anything that he dishes.

Also is this a dummy man Hulk that you keep trying to replay this scenario with? Why would he jump right into an electric storm without using an object to launch at Bill? Has Thor ever successfully stopped the Hulk from engaging him on a physical level? CIS on would suggest that Bill fights the way he has always fought, which is up in your face. Should we check out the Godhunter scans? maybe we should go with the Storbreaker ones.

Issues?

Mungi knows what I'm talking about. Alpha Flight is his thing. Just look for the Arc that has the Wrecking Crew in it.

So even when I provide evidence you try and deny its a planet they destroyed by demoting it to a planetoid. Of course that wasn't Galactus' most powerful, but it was more than enough to burn a good portion of that planet. What next, are you going to try and call the planet SD smashed Asteroth and Bill into as a planetoid as well because Bill got back up from that as well.

Planetoid, find a scan of any planet that Bill has destroyed that comes near in size compared to earth, I'll wait, but not for long... never mind you won't find any. Ok how about this find one thats even as large as earths moon I'll wait. Never mind, you won't find any.

Planetoids, that's what they were.


No it wasn't. I brought up the planet destroying attack first, which I was clearly talking about Godhunter, not Stormbreaker which is not the current Bill, but the old one who lost his cyborg body and was transported into a dead homeless mans body, by a higher power in the form of a woman. Check out the Stormbreaker mini, and you will see that canonically, the Bill that you were using from Stormbreaker is not Bill in his current state.

You brought up Godhunter but Stormbreaker was brought up because Bill did destroy a planet in that. You might want to reference Godhunter but I wasn't talking about that. Warlock also said the planet was destroyed when Bill COLLIDED with SD into it which is a reference to Stormbreaker. Talk about Godhunter if you want but in Stormbreaker Bill did destroy a planet. Ergo, Bill has destroy a planet at his best whereas that SkrullBolt never shattered that moon. No one is lying to you. Bill has destroyed a planet and evidence was given.

Secondly, writers have times an again tried to change Bill's appearance. Back in Power Cosmic, Surfer saved Bill's life and Bill gain a different armor and Stormbreaker. That didn't last and Bill was back in his Thor uniform. In Stormbreaker, Bill also gain a new human form and costume and that didn't last in Omega Flight. But it's still the same Bill. Also, where does it say in SB 6 that Bill still wasn't a cyborg with his new mortal form?


Read what I wrote above. You at least should know the character who you're repping.

I did. Maybe you should look at Bill's history. Bill is a cyborg and champion of his race that posses the power of Thor. Changes to the character don't last that long but it's still Bill.


A weaker Hulk stalemated Thor, Professor Hulk in a calm state matched him in the antarctic, not a big deal. Just remember that, that was also a weaker Hulk than WW Hulk.

Big deal, Thor holds back for certain people and character. Hulk isn't a villain; he's still an innocent. Bill wrecks people when he fights. And Bill stalemated Warrior Madness Thor until he was distracted. That was one of the most powerful version of Thor.


What I said in a retraction (stay current please or this will take more time than I have) was that if Black Bolts doppelganger (skrull) had continued his assault, that he had the power to destroy the moon. While keeping in mind that in Godhunter Bill didn't destroy the planetoid, Skuttlebut did. Judging by the amount of destruction that his first assault caused I am well justified in stating such. Do you get it now?

Skrullbolt never destroyed the moon. If he possessed that power, the Skrull's would've weaponized him and not Black Bolt. And when's the last time Bolt destroyed a planet or moon? I'm sure he can but Skrullbolt and Black Bolt aren't the same thing. Skrullbolt get his ass handed to him while Black Bolt has won atleast 3 fights against Hulk and zero losses. So why should Hulk surviving an imposter's attacks mean he'll tank Bill's attack when Bill K.O.ed Sasquach/Tanaraq?


Planetoid. The fact is, that on panel every planet that Bill destroyed, appeared to be smaller than the moon, check for yourself, I did.

Because there was a moon somewhere to reference against those planets Bill destroyed for you to make such a statement?


Bullshyt! Thor has hit the Hulk with lightening more than once (weaker Hulk), and he was just fine, the Hulk has had his flesh almost completely removed from his skeleton and he was fine. Bill has yet to prove that he can put the Hulk down, when the Hulk can regen from anything that he dishes.

Having regeneration doesn't prevent you from being K.O.ed. He only put down Sasquash/Tanaraq and wrecked the second most powerful herald.


Also is this a dummy man Hulk that you keep trying to replay this scenario with? Why would he jump right into an electric storm without using an object to launch at Bill? Has Thor ever successfully stopped the Hulk from engaging him on a physical level? CIS on would suggest that Bill fights the way he has always fought, which is up in your face. Should we check out the Godhunter scans? maybe we should go with the Storbreaker ones.

Go with Stormbreaker, Godhunter, or Omega Flight. Take out the lightning strikes and Bill would still be have enough power to take out Hulk.


Mungi knows what I'm talking about. Alpha Flight is his thing. Just look for the Arc that has the Wrecking Crew in it.

You mean the Omega Flight issue after Stormbreaker when Bill still possessed his new human form but lost his new costume? The only reason the Wrecking Crew gave him trouble was because the received a power up from the Great Beasts. In that same fight, Wrecker got assist from the demons unleashed and Bill still managed to knock Wrecker and the demons off of him only to be cheap shotted by Wrecker. In that same arc, Bill said his fists have shattered moons and his hammer planets (not planetoids). One of the Wrecking Crew member even mentions he feels like he could destroy planets with his new powers. How true is what Bill's saying? Bill went on to fight Tanaraq possessing Sasquaches' body and k.o.ed it.


Planetoid, find a scan of any planet that Bill has destroyed that comes near in size compared to earth, I'll wait, but not for long... never mind you won't find any. Ok how about this find one thats even as large as earths moon I'll wait. Never mind, you won't find any.

Planetoids, that's what they were.

Basically you've resorted to nonsense and dismissing Bill's feat. Here's that same book where Bill had "trouble" with the Wrecking. Bill slugging it out with Sasquatch/Tanaraq and putting him down. Lol. He's even referencing Stormbreaker and says planet - not planetoid.

Hulk.

I miss Omega Flight

👆 @ WWK.

I thought Thor wasn't in warrior madness during that fight with Bill?

Originally posted by -Pr-
I thought Thor wasn't in warrior madness during that fight with Bill?
he was.

then can someone explain this?

http://i799.photobucket.com/albums/yy275/llagrok/Warlock25-36.jpg

if i'm wrong then so be it...

^ It's exactly what it says.

Although some would argue there's a secret decoder pair of 3-D glasses that changes how you can read that simple statement. mhmm

*snark* *snark*

he wasnt in a true warrior madness but he was quite mad which is what allowed him to fight well above his average showing of strength and durability.

anyways..

his mental unbalance was similar to warrior madness b/c he was a warrior and was mad with rage and a conspiracy theory..thor

Originally posted by -Pr-
then can someone explain this?

http://i799.photobucket.com/albums/yy275/llagrok/Warlock25-36.jpg

if i'm wrong then so be it...

Originally posted by King Castle
he wasnt in a true warrior madness but he was quite mad which is what allowed him to fight well above his average showing of strength and durability.

anyways..

his mental unbalance was similar to warrior madness b/c he was a warrior and was mad with rage and a conspiracy theory..thor

Agreed. durthor

hulk madness > warrior's madness, and the fake one

Originally posted by psycho gundam
hulk madness > warrior's madness, and the fake one

And both are inferior to Hulkmania. estahuh

Originally posted by Omega Vision
And both are inferior to Hulkmania. estahuh

qft.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
And both are inferior to Hulkmania. estahuh

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Originally posted by psycho gundam
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Originally posted by psycho gundam
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BLASPHEMY!!!!!

And still my favorite match in WWF history...