Kingpin vs Mystique h/h

Originally posted by Magneto1982
Kingpin easily. It seems that after the X-men movies came out and the awful Evolution cartoon, people assume that Mystique is excellent in hand-to-hand combat. Overall, this is a misconception based on her comic book counterpart.

Mystique IS a competent hand to hand combatant. She's not really a martial artist like Logan, but she's over 100 years old and her battle experience, tactical prowess, and healing factor make her a powerful brawler. These days she's even MORE powerful. Higher base stats since her upgrade, supermorphing on the fly, weight/mass and elasticity alteration, etc.

She beats Kingpin even without supermorphing IMO.

Mystique could get a few wins but not the majority b4 kingpins snaps her neck or strangles her.

Originally posted by Konton
Uh, Mystique is clearly metahuman after her last upgrade.

Her minni had her doing crazy stuff even without morphing. She jumped 20* feet straight into the air, she dodged a freaking helicopter missile at point blank range (they tend to clock in at mach 2), one-two jumped from a palm tree onto a helicopter in flight and proceeded to rip the metal panels off of the side with her bare hands AND THEN smashed through the cockpit windshield with her forehead while calling the pilot a pussy.

She kicked Forge's bionic leg in half, nut-kicked two superhuman grunts that jumped at her from thirty stories or so above, was barely dazed when thrown head-first from a moving car... need I go on?

Her respect thread has all of the scans I'm referring to. I suggest anyone who has neglected to pick up Mystique's ongoing to think twice about it because it really was fantastic art and delightfully written.

Didn't know she had any upgrades. Is she above Kingpin?

She was exposed to massive levels of radiation in X-Men Forever when she went in to save Toad.

Is she above Kingpin in strength? Probably.

Kingpin at times is crazy strong as well. Above normal peak humans..

Nice scans.

Ripping off plates of an apache helicopter is pretty impressive considering it is designed to take hits from 20mm cannons and survive a crash at 8G.

Originally posted by Mshinu
Nice scans.

Ripping off plates of an apache helicopter is pretty impressive considering it is designed to take hits from 20mm cannons and survive a crash at 8G.

Though how hard it is to rip off a plate is dependent on how tough the plate's attached, which has little direct connection to armor thickness (what's used against the 20mm) or how braced the structure is (the crash).

I'm shocked that Mystique has a respect thread. I guess she really needed one.

Originally posted by Q99
Though how hard it is to rip off a plate is dependent on how tough the plate's attached, which has little direct connection to armor thickness (what's used against the 20mm) or how braced the structure is (the crash).

Obviously. It is also obvious that taking cannon fire and a crash requires the plate to be properly attached to a point where the seams are at least as strong as the rest of the hull.

Btw, Mystique didn`t just rip that plate half loose, she bent it. I don`t know how thich those are but it must be well above one inch since even a 12.7mm round can penetrate those. (unless it is some other metal than the usual armor steel)

Originally posted by Konton
She was exposed to massive levels of radiation in X-Men Forever when she went in to save Toad.

Is she above Kingpin in strength? Probably.

Awesome feat! To be fair, the current Mystique might stand a chance against Kingpin, but not the Classic Mystique (she was more a strategist and rarely did any fighting). If you have any scans with Classic Mystique using any h2h tactics, I would love to see them.

Her respect thread has her taking out the entire X roster.