Originally posted by Deadline
Yea that pretty much kills the argument then. Furthermore in Blade issue 1 1994 wasn't he carrying all sorts of other magical shit, like on his bike as well?
Originally posted by DeadlineI'm not even arguing his expertise in the supernatural.. just making a statement about his "standard gear" and the difference between being realistic about just what that is, and being unable to identify a plot device when it comes outa no where.
Doesn't matter wether its good writing or not. Blade in that arc stated he was n expert on demons and proved it. Hell lets not forget he was a member of the Nighstalkers as well and equipped himself with shit that wasn't just for vamps. So theres more than one example.
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
How does that kill the arguement? You do understand magical items don't matter right? Thats not his weekness. It who the items were created by which matters.
A magical weapon designed to kill supernatural beings is going to hurt or kill him isn't it?
Originally posted by jinzin
I'm not even arguing his expertise in the supernatural.. just making a statement about his "standard gear" and the difference between being realistic about just what that is, and being unable to identify a plot device when it comes outa no where.
Your missing the point. The point of the quote wasn't jsut that he was an expert its that and the fact weve seen him over the years and more recently carrying all sorts of supernatural shit, so that suggests that he will be carrying something.
Originally posted by Deadline
Your missing the point. The point of the quote wasn't jsut that he was an expert its that and the fact weve seen him over the years and more recently carrying all sorts of supernatural shit, so that suggests that he will be carrying something.
No I adressed the point directly.
His "standard gear" is what he uses a typical amount of the time.
Everything else falls under the distinction left by those who can't interpret a plot device when it's in plain sight... whether there's some degree of suggestion there or not..
Even his examples are......
How often has Blade used bolo's?..... 😬
Originally posted by Deadline
A magical weapon designed to kill supernatural beings is going to hurt or kill him isn't it?
Originally posted by jinzin
No I adressed the point directly.His "standard gear" is what he uses a typical amount of the time.
Everything else falls under the distinction left by those who can't interpret a plot device when it's in plain sight... whether there's some degree of suggestion there or not..
Even his examples are......
How often has Blade used bolo's?..... 😬
You're missing the point. Noit arguing hes going to be using bolos arguing that hes going to have something. Its tough shit wether you think its a plot device fact is he carrys all sorts of shit on him.
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
Not any more then any normal weapon. Your trying to pretend all super natural beings are the same, with the same weaknesses which is far from true. We know what bloodscream weakness is and been stated several times. Item being magical is no his weakness at all.
I was asking a question. Whats his weakness?
weapon has to be by non mortal means which means, gods, demons, immortals possibly aliens... it doesnt matter if it is made by a sorcerer or not it will not work it has to fit in the loophole.
the yashida sword is made of a meteorite and forged by a demon a none mortal man made material...
if it was made by the stephen strange with adamantium or vibranium it still wouldnt work on him when it comes to killing him
Originally posted by King Castle
weapon has to be by non mortal means which means, gods, demons, immortals possibly aliens... it doesnt matter if it is made by a sorcerer or not it will not work it has to fit in the loophole.the yashida sword is made of a meteorite and forged by a demon a none mortal man made material...
if it was made by the stephen strange with adamantium or vibranium it still wouldnt work on him when it comes to killing him
You sure your not taking it too literially?
its bn shown on panel repeatedly... wolverines adamantium claws dont work he immediately heals as the cut is made and are all non mortal wounds.
he has survived decapitation and kept on fighting without a head.
its bn shown on panel when he is injured it was done via non mortal weapons/materials...
even going as far as wolverine using bloodscreams own swords against him.. the reason they worked on bloodscream is b/c bloodscream forged his own weapons and by his own curse he is no longer mortal..
think of the curse as the wendigo curse... it can take damage and be temporarily injured but he will eventually regenerate..
even the loophole in his curse is not permanent it is only temporary death for bloodscream... when wolverine sliced Bloodscream from crotch to sternum bloodscream regenerated and came back to life a few days later....
Originally posted by King Castle
its bn shown on panel repeatedly... wolverines adamantium claws dont work he immediately heals as the cut is made and are all non mortal wounds.he has survived decapitation and kept on fighting without a head.
its bn shown on panel when he is injured it was done via non mortal weapons/materials...
even going as far as wolverine using bloodscreams own swords against him.. the reason they worked on bloodscream is b/c bloodscream forged his own weapons and by his own curse he is no longer mortal..
think of the curse as the wendigo curse... it can take damage and be temporarily injured but he will eventually regenerate..
even the loophole in his curse is not permanent it is only temporary death for bloodscream... when wolverine sliced Bloodscream from crotch to sternum bloodscream regenerated and came back to life a few days later....
1. Even if its true he can certainly get ****ed up by mortal weapons.
2. None of that conclusively proves the statement, all it proves is that he has a very powerful HF. Don't have that miuch of a problem with it just pointing that out.
so fighting without a head and functioning just proves he has a good healing factor?
the dude has superhuman strength, HF able to shape shift morph to even a bigger baddie, wields duo swords.. able to draw out one's blood with a touch turn ppl into zombies or mind control.
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/10069/558847-bloodscream_01.jpg
and he has not been f#$#ed up by any mortal weapon as of yet on panel.. the dude just keeps on trucking..
Originally posted by DeadlineNo it's not tough shit.... It's a plot device. That's the difference between STANDARD equiptment and non standard e.q.
You're missing the point. Noit arguing hes going to be using bolos arguing that hes going to have something. Its tough shit wether you think its a plot device fact is he carrys all sorts of shit on him.
BTW: Are we giving up on the whole civil thing? I thought we were making head-way here. 😕
Originally posted by King CastleThe ability to fight without your head is impressive as I've already stated, but as jinzin stated it's hard to fight without your arms and legs.
so fighting without a head and functioning just proves he has a good healing factor?the dude has superhuman strength, HF able to shape shift morph to even a bigger baddie, wields duo swords.. able to draw out one's blood with a touch turn ppl into zombies or mind control.
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/10069/558847-bloodscream_01.jpg
and he has not been f#$#ed up by any mortal weapon as of yet on panel.. the dude just keeps on trucking..
Originally posted by King CastlePretty sure Wolverine dropped him one of the first times they met with his Adamantium claws.and he has not been f#$#ed up by any mortal weapon as of yet on panel.. the dude just keeps on trucking..
Originally posted by jinzinare you referring to wolverine # 6
Pretty sure Wolverine dropped him one of the first times they met with his Adamantium claws.
Wolverine snuck in to general coys and the prince meeting at the prince mansion.. he speed blizt stealth clawed Blood scream.
blood scream grabbed his throat not sure what happen as he fell over and roughouse went to the attack as soon as he saw logan..
Bloodscream then got back up and lunged at Wolverine only to get interrupted by jessica who he fought for a while and then tried to get to wolverine but again was stopped by jessica's friend in the armored alien suit made by LL and L?
he was down for a few seconds tops and was back in the game.. it was nothing but shock of the attack.. besides we have a scan of Blood scream doing better then that..
and back to your original point if Bloodscream could get amputated not saying he cant Wolverine would have done it already due to bloodscreams spindly arms. one of the reasons i see being difficult to do is his superhuman stats and reaction good fighting skills and healing factor and when it is all said and done those are some really good reasons not to get an arm lobbed off especially when he has two swords to defend against and parry...
even selectively taking a certain stab or slash just to get an opening that he can capitalize on and stab or slash his opponent who cant survive the similar damage output..
He was down long enough to capitalize significantly on in any given one on one scenario. The point was that he can be hurt by man-made weaponry, the example proves that point.
Yes, we have one example of him fighting without a head, but that isn't proof that the same damage to his body center mass wouldn't damage him... It could just be a high end showing. OR it could be evidence that damage to his torso is a more effective way of dealing with Bloodscream than taking off his head... Which, certainly seems to be consistent with at least some immortal mythology.
Furthermore it's proof that he can be de-limbed with a Blade. It doesn't have to be his own.
I didn't see any uber swordsmanship with Scream when Wolverine casually took both of his hands while managing Vermin at the same time.
I haven't seena anything from Bloodscream to suggest he can hang with Blade in a sword duel. Having an arm/hand/etc get lopped off is definitely going to be an inconvenience and it's one that I can 1) see Blade pulling off. and 2) will make it near impossible for him (Scream) to win.
