Predator crew: New v. Old

Originally posted by Tron
Maybe, but Nikolai isn't a god damn sexual tyrannosaurus.

I'm sorry, I had to throw that in there.

Anyway, Dutch's crew being a spec-ops team, there's no doubt that they have experience with dealing with snipers. Isabella might catch one or two of them, but that would be enough for them to figure out where she's firing from, and to work around it. Of course it wouldn't be easy, but there's a reason that their team is considered the best.

And, there's one thing that Royce's crew doesn't have: Arnold Schwarzenegger and his jobber aura.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
They spent the entire movie getting their asses kicked by a sniper.

Got anything else? K.

Yeah you're right Sniper should win it.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
They spent the entire movie getting their asses kicked by a sniper.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Got anything else? K.

A "sniper" who was cloaked, and could jump from tree to tree with relative ease. You can't really compare the two. Is it necessary for me to list what else is wrong with this comment?

Originally posted by Tron
A "sniper" who was cloaked, and could jump from tree to tree with relative ease. You can't really compare the two. Is it necessary for me to list what else is wrong with this comment?

Also infrared vision to spot and track targets easily, and a targeting system for the "sniper".

Originally posted by Tron
A "sniper" who was cloaked, and could jump from tree to tree with relative ease. You can't really compare the two. Is it necessary for me to list what else is wrong with this comment?

I don't know why people even bring up the cloaking device. Gormen in Concrete Jungle saw the cloaked predator well enough to aim and shoot at it in a pitch dark setting on the train, yet somehow everyone else fails to see it while it's right on front of them, except for the main characters (who can always see it).

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
A cloak that doesn't actually make you invisible and jumping from tree to tree doesn't mean a whole lot when you're standing 50 feet away, which is what the Predator was usually doing. As far as actual killing effiency and stealth, you'd be better off with a sniper rifle and a bush then an ultra bright and slow moving, laser sight give away plasma caster and a light bending cloak.

I don't know why people even bring up the cloaking device. Gormen in Concrete Jungle saw the cloaked predator well enough to aim and shoot at it in a pitch dark setting on the train, yet somehow everyone else fails to see it while it's right on front of them, except for the main characters (who can always see it).

The cloak actually worked pretty decently in the trees in the beginning, before the team figured out that something was picking them off one by one.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi

haermm Isabelle picked out the dead special forces soldier from 120 yards away. She was scanning the area quickly, in borderline panic mode. Dude was in full camo and not moving. Dutch and his team will be moving, and they have no way of seeing her 120 yards away. Put Isabelle in a nest, under cover, with booby traps surrounding her, and yeah......

Sure, Dutch and his team can detect booby traps and bypass them, but it takes time. When they try to bypass/disarm the booby trap, BAM, she nails them.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
haermm Isabelle picked out the dead special forces soldier from 120 yards away. She was scanning the area quickly, in borderline panic mode. Dude was in full camo and not moving. Dutch and his team will be moving, and they have no way of seeing her 120 yards away. Put Isabelle in a nest, under cover, with booby traps surrounding her, and yeah......

Sure, I'm sure you saw in my scans that there was clearly 120 yards line of sight, and that Dutch will want to go into areas that are as open as possible. Yup, in fact your response is not really a response, just repeating what you've said earlier, which I've already shot down.

Put Isabelle in a nest? You don't even know where the other team is.

Originally posted by Placidity

LOL!

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I was actually with RJ until this point. I was thinking that the sniper would take a "high" position with an advantageous line of sight to an area/path that the others would naturally take. I haven't seen the new flick yet so I guess that jungle doesn't have much to over in terms of several clearings?

I think my point still stands, though, as your images show nice clearings. Maybe RJ's still right?

Let's ignore all of that for a minute and focus on the fact that Placidity obviously illegally downloaded the movie and should thus be put in jail forever.

Placidity, you bad, bad man.

Originally posted by dadudemon
haven't seen the new flick yet so I guess that jungle doesn't have much to over in terms of several clearings?

I'm assuming if you're asking if clearings were shown? Yes there were, theres a few scenes actually. But most of it is what you saw in my scans. But the point is Dutch isn't going to expose himself and walk in the open when he knows theres another elite enemy out there trying to kill them.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
Let's ignore all of that for a minute and focus on the fact that Placidity obviously illegally downloaded the movie and should thus be put in jail forever.

Placidity, you bad, bad man.

😕

Wow, didn't know it'd come out already on DVD and the like. It's only been like two months.

edit- stfu.

Originally posted by Placidity

Put Isabelle in a nest? You don't even know where the other team is.

Royce's team has two distinct advantages:

1. Isabelle and her sniper rifle that can make two mile shots. She is a highly trained sniper, she WILL spot Dutch and his team before they spot her.

2. Noland and his knowledge of the terrain.

Royce is trained in jungle warfare, just as Dutch is. He is at least as good at setting booby traps as Dutch is.

It all adds up to Team Royce winning.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
That works both ways, you know.

Yup, thats why Dutch isn't going to hide in one spot and just hope that despite the battlefield being the entire planet, that the enemy will stroll into where they are hiding.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Royce's team has two distinct advantages:

1. Isabelle and her sniper rifle that can make two mile shots. She is a highly trained sniper, she WILL spot Dutch and his team before they spot her.

2. Noland and his knowledge of the terrain.

1.

- Sniper may or may not have that range ( most likely not), but Isabelle has not shown that kind of marksmanship.

- Dutch will stick to the forest for cover. Isabelle will not spot them, if she even knows where to look at given theres thousands of square miles of jungles in all directions. She doesn't even know which side they may be approaching from.

- If she spots Dutch and his team, it would be in close quarters, in which case, no she does not spot them first, and yes she will be mowed down quickly.

2.

The terrain is not dissimilar to those found on Earth. Noland's knowledge of the terrain will not help.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi

Royce is trained in jungle warfare, just as Dutch is. He is at least as good at setting booby traps as Dutch is.

Unfortunately this is just your opinion and is not shown on film.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi

It all adds up to Team Dutch winning.

Yes.

Originally posted by Placidity
Yup, thats why Dutch isn't going to hide in one spot and just hope that despite the battlefield being the entire planet, that the enemy will stroll into where they are hiding.

- Sniper may or may not have that range ( most likely not), but Isabelle has not shown that kind of marksmanship.

Robert Rodriguez, on Isabelle:

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- Dutch will stick to the forest for cover. Isabelle will not spot them, if she even knows where to look at given theres thousands of square miles of jungles in all directions. She doesn't even know which side they may be approaching from.

- If she spots Dutch and his team, it would be in close quarters, in which case, no she does not spot them first, and yes she will be mowed down quickly.

The terrain is not dissimilar to those found on Earth. Noland's knowledge of the terrain will not help.

Unfortunately this is just your opinion and is not shown on film.

Dutch has this...

Also he has insane durability as he tanks Predator canon shots! Sniper bullets won't do anything to him.

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And of course he has the best lines.
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