WWH Runs supermans feats

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Do the calculations again.

If you don't think Superman can lift a trillion tons then either you're trolling or you've never seen the scan where he tows the Earth with the aid of MM and WW. Even supposing the burden was split 33/33/33 (which is doubtful considering Superman is the strongest of the three) that still means he tugged 10 times the weight All-Star Superman pressed: roughly 2 sextillion tons.

What they did was remove Earth from it's orbit, which takes 1/80 the force the planet weighs... when i did the calculations, it came out to 1 billion tons (1 billion tons of force is needed to remove it from orbit ). Divvying that up between 3 people is somewhere in the neighborhood of 333 million tons... even if you wanna give Superman a greater bulk of the workload, it's still no where near a trillion tons.

You're severely underestimating how much a trillion tons is.

Originally posted by marwash22
I'm not doing it again, at least not at this exact moment in time. Based on your comments though, i can tell you're making the same mistake the other people made... that is, asserting that they moved the entire mass of the planet, which is just not true. Once they moved the planet from orbit, it became weightless, so all they did was guide it through space.

What they did was remove Earth from it's orbit, which takes 1/80 the force the planet weighs... when i did the calculations, it came out to 1 billion tons (1 billion tons of force is needed to remove it from orbit ). Divvying that up between 3 people is somewhere in the neighborhood of 333 million tons... even if you wanna give Superman a greater bulk of the workload, it's still no where near a trillion tons.

You're severely underestimating how much a trillion tons is.

1/80th the mass of the planet is vastly greater than 1 billion tons. Also removing the Earth from its orbit won't immediately render it weightless. Do you have any idea how far the sun's gravitational pull extends?

why is that?

Originally posted by marwash22
why is that?

Ahhh, damn. my mistake, that calculation was for the moon feat.

For reference on the kind of force that has hit the Earth in the past and failed to dislodge it from its orbit, scientists believe the Moon was formed in the aftermath of a collision with a Mars sized object. Mars being 700 Quintillion or so tons it makes quite a statement about the strength of the Earth's tether to the sun.

Also I hope you realize that there are mountains on Earth estimated to weigh well in excess of a trillion tons. Individual mountains.

with that said, you realize how ridiculous it is for that to be an actual Superman feat, don't you? Hulk is not duplicating that.

Originally posted by marwash22
with that said, you realize how ridiculous it is for that to be an actual Superman feat, don't you? Hulk is not duplicating that.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Lifting 200 Quintillion tons is microscopic compared to the Book Lifting Feat if we take it at face value.

Originally posted by marwash22
both are ridiculous... which is why current Superman is not THAT strong, it's illogical even by comic standards. The book is even more stupid because it's impossible for it to even exist, let alone for someone to lift it... infinite pages = lulz.

I know it's a radical concept.

that level of high feats are rare especially when you see supes using extra effort to lift a pyramid or try to solo push a planet..

it not only makes it rare but inconsistent to the characters average showing

Originally posted by King Castle
that level of high feats are rare especially when you see supes using extra effort to lift a pyramid or try to solo push a planet..

it not only makes it rare but inconsistent to the characters average showing

When did i say the feats are BS? I said they are ridiculous, which is why current Superman isn't that strong.

Originally posted by marwash22
When did i say the feats are BS? I said they are ridiculous, which is why current Superman isn't [b]that strong. [/B]

we use average consistent showings of characters in forums.. even then strength wise hulk should be able to reach and match most forum characters.

equally as retarded as it might sound compared to other character feats.

i'll take your consistent comic comment with a grain of salt. stories are structured and leas they are suppose to be however you might feel about it with certain companies stories and comics.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Except he is, since both the Earth moving and book lifting feats are from Post Crisis Superman.

When did the book lifting happen and under what circumstances did it occur 'cause that makes no sense.

Originally posted by King Castle
we use average consistent showings of characters in forums.. even then strength wise hulk should be able to reach and match most forum characters.

equally as retarded as it might sound compared to other character feats.

i'll take your consistent comic comment with a grain of salt. stories are structured and leas they are suppose to be however you might feel about it with certain companies stories and comics.

"Average showings" is often just repackaged lowballing.

Originally posted by marwash22
huh? It was stated that Allstar Superman was responsible for the one handed lifting feat.

When did the book lifting happen and under what circumstances did it occur 'cause that makes no sense.

The context was that Earth-5 Captain Marvel and Superman both needed to bring a book to their crashed trans-dimensional ship so as to repair the ship. The book in question was a book containing all possible stories, meaning it was of infinite page count and according to Captain Marvel weighed more than a Universe. Cap and Superman lifted it together with great strain.

Now there are a lot of ways to look at the feat, but the simplest is that Cap+Superman is apparently enough to lift infinite mass.

Oh and Ultraman later lifted it on his lonesome. So go Ultraman. 😛

hmm.. if you cant separate the difference i suggest you read the forum rules, description or take it up with a mod b/c just b/c you dont think it should be so doesnt mean it changes for the sake of your argument and opinion.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Except he is, since both the Earth moving and book lifting feats are from Post Crisis Superman.

Originally posted by Starscream M
both feats are bullshit