Originally posted by RobtardSo what we have is a bunch of Gods that ddidn't do much of anything on screen and a boy on flying shoes he can barely control vs a monster who eats Titans and cities for breakfast.
And if Hades is defeated? What then? Also, the Medusa angle stands, dude. If the PercyGods get their hands on ThurmanMedusa's head, the Kraken is finished.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
And if Hades is defeated? What then? Also, the Medusa angle stands, dude. If the PercyGods get their hands on ThurmanMedusa's head, the Kraken is finished.
Of all the Gods in both films, Hades was the only one that did much of anything. I have no idea what would happen to the Kraken; I doubt it'd die, as it was implied there was only one way to kill it, turning it to stone.
If, if, if. Again, you're adding Medusa to the mix after the fact; that's lame and dishonest. Not to mention, the fight starts and the Percy team is going to ****-off to get themselves a head while team B waits? Lame.
Just accept that Percy isn't a match for the Kraken. What the hell is with you and over-blowing teenage boys with magical powers. Hope Percy doesn't turn into your new Harry Potter.
Originally posted by Robtard
Of all the Gods in both films, Hades was the only one that did much of anything. I have no idea what would happen to the Kraken; I doubt it'd die, as it was implied there was only one way to kill it, turning it to stone.If, if, if. Again, you're adding Medusa to the mix after the fact; that's lame and dishonest. Not to mention, the fight starts and the Percy team is going to ****-off to get themselves a head while team B waits? Lame.
Just accept that Percy isn't a match for the Kraken. What the hell is with you and over-blowing teenage boys with magical powers. Hope Percy doesn't turn into your new Harry Potter.
I'm not saying the Kraken would die if Hades is defeated, only what would it do? Would it be free to wander the globe, wreaking havoc all over?
Think about it: The PercyGods can essentially teleport wherever they want, whenever they want. It takes one second to TP to Medusas lair, another five seconds or so to TP behind her and take her head, another second to TP to wherever the Kraken, done deal.
Percy cannot kill the Kraken, no, but I am of the opinion that he can control water as he wishes. He can create a typhoon or a massive undertow that will suck the Kraken under, give the PercyGods time to retrieve Medusas head (see what I said above). It's quite simple. Gods know all and see all, they know about Medusa.
To answer the question of how powerful is Zeus's bolt, Luke fired it and demolished the corner of the Empire state building.
And, upon watching the scene in the end, where Luke and Percy are fighting for the bolt. Percy is zipping around the inside of a building like a Star Wars pod racer. He even crashes through a stone wall and takes no damage.
Originally posted by ImpedimentSo what you are saying is that Percy can control only water that is stored in water towers, and only two at a time? Yeah, I think not. If he is over an ocean, why wouldn't he be able to control all the water he wanted?
Undertows and typhoons are moot points. The Golden Rule speaks for itself.See The Bob Lee Swagger thread for reasons why.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
So what you are saying is that Percy can control only water that is stored in water towers, and only two at a time? Yeah, I think not. If he is over an ocean, why wouldn't he be able to control all the water he wanted?
Again: see The Golden Rule and the Bob Lee Swagger thread. I made the rule to avoid shit like this. It didn't happen on screen? Well, guess what?
It didn't happen.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I'm not saying the Kraken would die if Hades is defeated, only what would it do? Would it be free to wander the globe, wreaking havoc all over?Think about it: The PercyGods can essentially teleport wherever they want, whenever they want. It takes one second to TP to Medusas lair, another five seconds or so to TP behind her and take her head, another second to TP to wherever the Kraken, done deal.
Percy cannot kill the Kraken, no, but I am of the opinion that he can control water as he wishes. He can create a typhoon or a massive undertow that will suck the Kraken under, give the PercyGods time to retrieve Medusas head (see what I said above). It's quite simple. Gods know all and see all, they know about Medusa.
Well in that case, the COtT God's get their Medusa's head and strap it on the Kraken's foreheard, so anyone trying to use the Percy-Medusa head get's turned to stone in kind.
See, I can pull BS out of my ass too instead of sticking to the OP and accepting that one side (COtT) is clearly more powerful than the other.
Originally posted by ImpedimentSo if Hulk is shown smashing cars, but not cargo vans, he can't smash cargo vans? If McClane finds a .357 revolver, he can't use it? Dom Toretto, he was never shown driving a '57 Chevy. You saying he would suck at it?
Again: see The Golden Rule and the Bob Lee Swagger thread. I made the rule to avoid shit like this. It didn't happen on screen? Well, guess what?It didn't happen.
Think about that.
It's water, dude. The water in the ocean is the same as the water in the towers. Percy made the giant leap from controlling water from a fountain to controlling water from two towers, even fashioning a Trident. Obviously controlling a larger amount of water is feasible. I'm not saying Percy can control the entire Atlantic ocean, mind you.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
So if Hulk is shown smashing cars, but not cargo vans, he can't smash cargo vans? If McClane finds a .357 revolver, he can't use it? Dom Toretto, he was never shown driving a '57 Chevy. You saying he would suck at it?Think about that.
It's water, dude. The water in the ocean is the same as the water in the towers. Percy made the giant leap from controlling water from a fountain to controlling water from two towers, even fashioning a Trident. Obviously controlling a larger amount of water is feasible. I'm not saying Percy can control the entire Atlantic ocean, mind you.
Did Percy create typhoons? Did Percy create undertows?
No. It didn't happen on screen.
Originally posted by RobtardSure, that'll work.
Well in that case, the COtT God's get their Medusa's head and strap it on the Kraken's foreheard, so anyone trying to use the Percy-Medusa head get's turned to stone in kind.See, I can pull BS out of my ass too instead of sticking to the OP and accepting that one side (COtT) is clearly more powerful than the other.
Let's sum it up. When Grover used PercyMedusa on the Hydra, the Hydra had expelled fire towards Grover. Grover takes off Medusa's glasses, and the fire is stopped by some sort of TK shield. COTT Medusa just froze people, it didn't do anything like that.
PercyMedusa's gaze is more powerful.
Next question.
Originally posted by ImpedimentMattie, FF to :47, watch to the end.
Did Percy create typhoons? Did Percy create undertows?No. It didn't happen on screen.
Look at what Percy did with the water under his control. Stop downplaying his incredible power.
Originally posted by Impediment
Last time, RJ:It didn't happen on screen? It didn't happen.
Sincerely, The Golden Rule.
I am going by the golden rule. Percy was shown manipulating water however he saw fit. What he did to Luke, moving the water in at him, was basically one big ass undertow. It sucked Luke in and he was helpless.
Percy manipulated a small amount of water in the Hydra battle, then it grew in size, and he had control over it the entire time. Then he controlled a much larger amount against Luke. As he grew more accustomed to his powers, he was able to control larger and larger amounts of water.
Originally posted by Impediment
What part of "Golden Rule" can't you comprehend?If it didn't happen on screen, it doesn't hold water.
Bob Swagger can't make the one mile shot.
Luke doesn't have EU powers.
Percy didn't make typhoons or undertows.
Swagger made shots from over a mile out, Mattie.
Percy was able to push and pull water at his will, even surround himself with it and suspend it in midair. Forming an underwater undertow will be easier than shit for him. The typhoons was a reach, I'll concede that.
Why are you throwing the MVF golden rule at me? I am 100% in accordance with it.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Swagger made shots from over a mile out, Mattie.Percy was able to push and pull water at his will, even surround himself with it and suspend it in midair. Forming an underwater undertow will be easier than shit for him.
Why are you throwing the MVF golden rule at me? I am 100% in accordance with it.
Because. He. Didn't. Do. It. Onscreen.
You are not in accordance with the rules.
Stop trying to weave a false scenario.
Next time is a warning, RJ.
Originally posted by Impediment
Because. He. Didn't. Do. It. Onscreen.You are not in accordance with the rules.
Stop trying to weave a false scenario.
Next time is a warning, RJ.
Wow.
Let's try this another way.....In the vid, when Percy had the water suspended in midair and was pushing and pulling it however he wanted to, what would you call that?
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Sure, that'll work.Let's sum it up. When Grover used PercyMedusa on the Hydra, the Hydra had expelled fire towards Grover. Grover takes off Medusa's glasses, and the fire is stopped by some sort of TK shield. COTT Medusa just froze people, it didn't do anything like that.
PercyMedusa's gaze is more powerful.
Next question.
And what that have to do the COtT Medusa-head still having the ability to turn others to stone? Exactly, they both turn others to stone, which is the point.
Though I wasn't serious about that scenario, I was showing how ridiculous you're being by trying to add Medusa's head as a weapon for the Percy-team, when it wasn't in the OP.