Originally posted by Frisky Dingo
On topic, I think the gang of Shaker clones could all stop time with the help of Dante and Megaman and cover a very wide area. Not sure what Pyron could do about that.
Originally posted by Frisky Dingo
Also, Pyron and G.Bilstien Nvade TVC!YouTube video
Ghost BilstienYouTube video
PyronThe Tekkamen sure know what bosses 2 fight.
It should be mentioned that the Mega Man universe has its share of large-scale reality manipulating characters, energy manipulators, and planet busters. Included in this list would be Gate, Lumine, Epsilon, Great Redips, Final Weapon, Supra Force Metal, and the Mother Elf. I really don't think they'd be a cakewalk for Pyron. Then of course, he has X and Zero's limitless potential power to deal with (and all of their abilities, yes including those time stopping powers, which Gate and the Mother Elf can accomplish as well). And X's demonstrated ability to seal vast amounts of energy, even reality warping entities within his body.
Originally posted by AcrosurgeBut how will they overcome Pyron slightly turning his head to the left?
It should be mentioned that the Mega Man universe has its share of large-scale reality manipulating characters, energy manipulators, and planet busters. Included in this list would be Gate, Lumine, Epsilon, Great Redips, Final Weapon, Supra Force Metal, and the Mother Elf. I really don't think they'd be a cakewalk for Pyron. Then of course, he has X and Zero's limitless potential power to deal with (and all of their abilities, yes including those time stopping powers, which Gate and the Mother Elf can accomplish as well). And X's demonstrated ability to seal vast amounts of energy, even reality warping entities within his body.
Pyron dwarfs the Milky Way. I don't think people realise exactly how huge that makes him.
Originally posted by NemeBroI don't doubt that he's huge. But size doesn't necessarily translate into absolute, omnipotent power (Afterall, Demitri consumed Pyron, so it isn't like he's inexorable).
But how will they overcome Pyron slightly turning his head to the left?Pyron dwarfs the Milky Way. I don't think people realise exactly how huge that makes him.
The Mother Elf is about a meter across, but she can both stop time and rewrite extremely powerful beings out of existence, if she is so inclined. She's joined by other reality warpers and energy manipulators here. Enough, IMO, to suggest that the Mega Man Universe would not be a simple picnic for Pyron.
Originally posted by AcrosurgeDemitri fought a signifigantly weaker, mortal Pyron. Who still had energy, matter, and even reality warping to a level that he can shrink and teleport constellations, make them supernova in battle, and then restore them to their original form, all without effort. And Demitri absorbing Pyron is not proof for the Megaman universe's powah.
I don't doubt that he's huge. But size doesn't necessarily translate into absolute, omnipotent power (Afterall, Demitri absorbed Pyron, so it isn't like he's inexorable).The Mother Elf is about a meter across, but she can both stop time and rewrite extremely powerful beings out of existence, if she is so inclined. She's joined by other reality warpers and energy manipulators here. Enough, IMO, to suggest that the Mega Man Universe would not be a simple picnic for Pyron.
See, nothing you suggested makes me believe Pyron cannot win by turning his head slightly to the left.
Originally posted by NemeBroWhy shouldn't so many large scale reality warpers and energy manipulators be able to prevent Pyron from walking all over the universe? You don't need to convince me of his scale. I know he's big enough to play with planets and star formations. Does Pyron have feats that suggest that he is immune to being written out of space-time or drastically reduced in power? Could we see these feats?
Demitri fought a signifigantly weaker, mortal Pyron.
And I'm curious about this weaker, mortal Pyron that Demitri consumed. Is there official story information to back this up?
Originally posted by Acrosurge
The Mother Elf is about a meter across, but she can both stop time and rewrite extremely powerful beings out of existence, if she is so inclined. She's joined by other reality warpers and energy manipulators here. Enough, IMO, to suggest that the Mega Man Universe would not be a simple picnic for Pyron.
M.Elf would have to do all that on a scale that was larger than most other galaxies in the universe. She would also have to sense Pyron and know he was in her presence AND find away to damge an incorpereal being. I wouldn't even wanna know what Pyron could do if he actually cut loose. I don't even think there is a single character in their universe who could stand in Pyron's presence without melting like an ice cube on a sidewalk in the summer.
Originally posted by No End N SiteOkay, so here's what I don't get; if Pyron was so inexorably large, how did Demitri consume all that energy?
M.Elf would have to do all that on a scale that was larger than most other galaxies in the universe. She would also have to sense Pyron and know he was in her presence AND find away to damge an incorpereal being. I wouldn't even wanna know what Pyron could do if he actually cut loose. I don't even think there is a single character in their universe who could stand in Pyron's presence without melting like an ice cube on a sidewalk in the summer.
Originally posted by AcrosurgeBecause they would have to do it on a gigantic scale, larger than most galaxies. It is like the difference between smashing a rock with a hammer and smashing the Earth. Only with an even greater difference.
Why shouldn't so many large scale reality warpers and energy manipulators be able to prevent Pyron from walking all over the universe? You don't need to convince me of his scale. I know he's big enough to play with planets and star formations. Does Pyron have feats that suggest that he is immune to being written out of space-time or drastically reduced in power? Could we see these feats?And I'm curious about this weaker, mortal Pyron that Demitri consumed. Is there official story information to back this up?
The Graphic File states that Pyron took a limited, mortal form when he went to Earth. I am much too lazy to go to my Photobucket and get the scan though.
Originally posted by Acrosurge
Why shouldn't so many large scale reality warpers and energy manipulators be able to prevent Pyron from walking all over the universe? You don't need to convince me of his scale. I know he's big enough to play with planets and star formations. Does Pyron have feats that suggest that he is immune to being written out of space-time or drastically reduced in power? Could we see these feats?And I'm curious about this weaker, mortal Pyron that Demitri consumed. Is there official story information to back this up?
He can play with galaxies, actually. Pyron does not need feats that suggest that he is immune to being written out of space-time or drastically reduced in power. he comes from a game where the weaker cast members can do that. You have to prove that these powers these characters have can work on a 400,000 Light Year scale and can do so at FTL while affecting incorpereal beings.
^ Scans showin' what?
Originally posted by Acrosurge
Okay, so here's what I don't get; if Pyron was so inexorably large, how did Demitri consume all that energy?
Demitri is VERY VERY powerful. He tanked a time space rippin' attack. This would be like the equivalent of him gettin' hit by a compressed Gamma Ray Burst or Hyper Nova.
Originally posted by No End N SiteYet he was consumed by Demitri and that was apparently the end of his galaxy spanning power. Something doesn't add up. That official story information would definitely help here.
Pyron does not need feats that suggest that he is immune to being written out of space-time or drastically reduced in power.
Originally posted by AcrosurgeNot actually at home to post scans but just wait a few minutes...I'll be back...
Yet he was consumed by Demitri and that was apparently the end of his galaxy spanning power. Something doesn't add up. That official story information would definitely help here.
It should also be noted that Demitri IS VERY VERY POWERFUL.
Originally posted by No End N SiteAnd yet he could be rapidly destroyed by exposure to sunlight.
Not actually at home to post scans but just wait a few minutes...I'll be back...It should also be noted that Demitri IS VERY VERY POWERFUL.
Thanks, man. The scans should help a lot. This whole Demitri/Pyron thing is quite puzzling.
Originally posted by AcrosurgeHere, these are all the scans I have of the Graphic File.
And yet he could be rapidly destroyed by exposure to sunlight.Thanks, man. The scans should help a lot. This whole Demitri/Pyron thing is quite puzzling.
http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee224/Pyronftw/oie_pyron.gif
Hope they help.
^OH, that!
Originally posted by Acrosurge
And yet he could be rapidly destroyed by exposure to sunlight.
Cuz he was hit with a move, previously, that ripped time and space with sheer force. Only the LARGEST MOST POWERFUL explosions in the entire universe can do what Demitri go hit with. He's weak against sunlight cuz he himself was physically and spiritually weakened from being hit so damn hard. He almost died...
Thanks for that, NemeBro. To be honest, I'm not convinced by this file that Pyron made himself mortal and somehow cut himself off from his powers. The file suggests that he compressed (shrunk) his powers into a limiting form that resembled a human being. The context suggests that he merely placed his vast powers in a smaller body that could interact and fight with the Darkstalker cast. He was then defeated and absorbed by Demitri proving that it was possible to absorb his vast energies (and if Demitri somehow only absorbed a minuscule portion of Pyron, where did the rest of his enormous energy go?).
And No End, the fact remains that Demitri, weakened to the point that mere sunlight could kill him, was still able to best Pyron and end his existence. The Mother Elf and Omega ripped apart time and space. Heck, Centaur Man from the classic Mega Man series could rip up time and space. Does this mean that they can create the largest explosions in the entire universe?
