Originally posted by 753bisons psycho power protects him from any attack. its not exactly phasing but if you watch exactly what he does in the anime series you will see what he can do compared to the video game version
Who did mindrape? And when did he transmutate anything?He just wins byoverpowering Bison.
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
mindrape ,transmutation , etc
Apocalypse is the king of fake powers on this forum. He doesn't have uber tk, tp, or matter manip so stop claiming he does.
Originally posted by Omega VisionWhere would you place Apoc? High herald? Above?
While I agree that Apoc could dominate 90% of the SF universe without breaking a sweat he has neither of those powers.Apocalypse is the king of fake powers on this forum. He doesn't have uber tk, tp, or matter manip so stop claiming he does.
Originally posted by Omega VisionThe God tier SF teeter high meta and low herald depending on the char.
Low Herald, Mid Herald at best.Still there are only a few SF characters who are High Meta and most of them are Low Metas or Elite Streets.
The rest tend to scatter. Though only the joke characters are probably elite street. Then again it depends on what version is being used. Apoc definitely would win IMO, unless it was against the highest incarnation they have available.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I haven't seen Gouken do that. Gouki has. I'm not sure. I thought towards the end Kid Goku was crazy powerful. Might be a decent match. I'll have to reread some Kid Goku.
Teen goku or young picollo by the end was amazingly powerful. I think a teen goku or young picollo (junior) vs apocalypse thread (no tp even though I think tp wouldn't even work on even this version of goku) would be nice.
Originally posted by carver9
Teen goku or young picollo by the end was amazingly powerful. I think a teen goku or young picollo (junior) vs apocalypse thread (no tp even though I think tp wouldn't even work on even this version of goku) would be nice.
Apoc has mind reading, brain washing, and "mind control", but hasn't shown "mind-raping" of the "I HURT UR BRAINZ NOW"/mental attack kind. It's more along the lines of "mind molestation" and putting people under his thrall to be his henchmen.
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Against Xavier he used his mental defenses. He can deflect mental attacks back at the person attacking him and force them violently out of his mind. He hasn't been shown to initiate the attack though.
Originally posted by carver9
Didn't he use it against xavier.
There's also the fact that Marvel has stated that Apoc doesn't have tp and his bios (which tend to be pretty generous to him compared to on panel feats) don't mention tp.
Originally posted by illadelph12
Apoc has mind reading, brain washing, and "mind control", but hasn't shown "mind-raping" of the "I HURT UR BRAINZ NOW"/mental attack kind. It's more along the lines of "mind molestation" and putting people under his thrall to be his henchmen.Edit*
Against Xavier he used his mental defenses. He can deflect mental attacks back at the person attacking him and force them violently out of his mind. He hasn't been shown to initiate the attack though.
Gotcha... I kind of thought about it like that but I also think a lot of people underate him as well.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
It was probably an energy blast, the art is ambiguous and there's no statement that it was a mental assault.There's also the fact that Marvel has stated that Apoc doesn't have tp and his bios (which tend to be pretty generous to him compared to on panel feats) don't mention tp.
I agree with this... I was just kind of confused.
Originally posted by illadelph12
He mind controlled the Four Horsemen (when Warren was originally made into Death Apocalypse had him and the other Horsemen under his thrall). It took the emotional distress of Iceman faking his death to shock Warren out of it.He also read the mind of Sinister, Ozymandius, and Moses Magnum.
when did he read sinister mind? I find that very hard to believe.