I'm not really interestes in these kind of characters my point is more that the Guardians seemed to struggle with people they shouldn't (If they are still on that high level). Sacrificing yourself only to BFR Prime for example. But I'm also pretty sceptical to the "Odin busts galaxies" thing if that's your point.
Anyway, Guardians are on average below skyfathers like Odin, but probably about on the same level as Zeus, or maybe death gods like Pluto in their own realm.
Probably the biggest feat one ever demonstrated was creation of a false reality where Nazis ruled, but that is heavily out of the norm. Generally though they are capable of taking on huge groups of heroes like nothing, 'cracking a planet in half with a thought', protecting entire planets from the big crunch, trapping eternity-like living space sectors (collectively, ie they had to work together to do it), breaking the empire of tears and trapping them on a single planet (originally the empire was multiple galaxies in size), breaking the power of the Burning Martians, etc. Their less powerful, untrained children were capable of causing planet wide extinction events with stray thoughts ('if they get bitten by a bug, all such bugs across the planet wink out of existence'😉, etc.
Technology wise they are crazy, obviously, creating the rings, and the Manhunters, and reality altering devices like the Great Green Glob.
Their genetic 'brothers', the Controllers, have similar feats, manufacturing sun eaters as weapons, a single one taking on the combined forces of no less than 7 GLs plus 6 Darkstars, and doing so casually, casually taking control of Superman, creating the Miracle Machine...
Originally posted by Parmaniac
I'm not really interestes in these kind of characters my point is more that the Guardians seemed to struggle with people they shouldn't (If they are still on that high level). Sacrificing yourself only to BFR Prime for example. But I'm also pretty sceptical to the "Odin busts galaxies" thing if that's your point.
There, in general, has been a move to make characters more down to earth for whatever reason. Zeus gets knocked around by Ares and killed by Mikobashi in the Ares mini, and that's pretty pathetic. To the best of my knowledge, Zeus has never done anything particularly impressive.
Odin, of course, has had his heydey and was a beast, but he's also been knocked out by an earthquake and kidnapped by random aliens, poisoned by all manner of things, etc. Jurgens implied that reassembling a moon might be beyond the power of a skyfather -- something we've seen Green Lanterns do with ease.
I think it's better, though, that we look at characters historically, rather than just what's happened recently.
Originally posted by Desaaddid you look at the scan i posted?
There, in general, has been a move to make characters more down to earth for whatever reason. Zeus gets knocked around by Ares and killed by Mikobashi in the Ares mini, and that's pretty pathetic. To the best of my knowledge, Zeus has never done anything particularly impressive.Odin, of course, has had his heydey and was a beast, but he's also been knocked out by an earthquake and kidnapped by random aliens, poisoned by all manner of things, etc. Jurgens implied that reassembling a moon might be beyond the power of a skyfather -- something we've seen Green Lanterns do with ease.
I think it's better, though, that we look at characters historically, rather than just what's happened recently.
Zeus recently just one shotted thor & surfer at the same time
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/5/51954/1489222-chaos_war_3_06_02_super.jpg
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/5/51954/1489224-chaos_war_3_07_02_super.jpg
Originally posted by DesaadOdin has been capture and posioned in his prime too same old thing. Zeus being killed by Mikobashi is not a low showing if you had any clue plus he stalemated during the battle and only got defeated when his kids were in trouble We have seen skyfather recreate a moon Thor as a rookie did this plus Odin created the whole realm of asgard that tops any moon by far and the as for writers comment on power levels one writter just ocmmented that Zeus only had a lsight amp when he fought galactus so skyfathers can't make a moon or they are strong enough to hurt galactus
There, in general, has been a move to make characters more down to earth for whatever reason. Zeus gets knocked around by Ares and killed by Mikobashi in the Ares mini, and that's pretty pathetic. To the best of my knowledge, Zeus has never done anything particularly impressive.Odin, of course, has had his heydey and was a beast, but he's also been knocked out by an earthquake and kidnapped by random aliens, poisoned by all manner of things, etc. Jurgens implied that reassembling a moon might be beyond the power of a skyfather -- something we've seen Green Lanterns do with ease.
I think it's better, though, that we look at characters historically, rather than just what's happened recently.
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
did you look at the scan i posted?Zeus recently just one shotted thor & surfer at the same time
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/5/51954/1489222-chaos_war_3_06_02_super.jpg
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/5/51954/1489224-chaos_war_3_07_02_super.jpg
Yeah, but he was being controlled/inhabited my Chaos King, and Pak himself said that he was being amped in his most recent interview with Newsarama, which is why he was able to withstand Galactus' blast so easily.
How much? We don't know. I don't tend to think it was that much, but Thor has done pretty decently against Zeus in the past solo.
Originally posted by DarkOdin
Odin has been capture and posioned in his prime too same old thing.
Yeah, that is what I was saying.
Zeus being killed by Mikobashi is not a low showing if you had any clue
Very strong argument. Really.
plus he stalemated during the battle and only got defeated when his kids were in trouble We have seen skyfather recreate a moon Thor as a rookie did this
That is what I was referred to. Thor as a rookie passed out from the exertion, which in and of itself was a low showing. But when Jurgen's was interviewed about it, he made comments to the effect of it being 'the stuff of legend', that we couldn't be sure if the retelling was real truth of embellished myth, as if it was a big deal.
plus Odin created the whole realm of asgard that tops any moon by far and the as for writers comment on power levels one writter just ocmmented that Zeus only had a lsight amp when he fought galactus so skyfathers can't make a moon or they are strong enough to hurt galactus
So do you have something against grammar or what? It makes it really difficult to read and respond to your posts.
Originally posted by Desaad
Yeah, but he was being controlled/inhabited my Chaos King, and Pak himself said that he was being amped in his most recent interview with Newsarama, which is why he was able to withstand Galactus' blast so easily.How much? We don't know. I don't tend to think it was that much, but Thor has done pretty decently against Zeus in the past solo.
Wasn't Galactus surprised that Zeus was still standing after he blasted him?? Had to have been a pretty big amp to make Galactus surprised.. The Gaurdians have been alive for billions of years so they are gonna have some low showings here and there. They also seem to rule the DCU nearly alone with the exceptions of the Zamarons and The Controllers, though they are all Oans.
