Hulk vs the Ladies

Originally posted by Warlord
it's comics...people talk in space.
also once again his head wasn't covered. there's still oxygen there

Give it up man, he was breathing in a toxic environment, and the air in that enviroment was super heated. Fire in the lungs would do little more than piss him off even more. Guess what happens when the Hulk gets pissed. Your argument is border-lining desperation, but time and time again, the Hulk has taken teams more powerful than this. If you put Sersi on Sakaar and stuck one of those spikes on her she would have been consumed. The Hulks body fought them off. He's really hard to put away, now if he didn't have his HF and remained at the same power level, I would say that this team would win. He doesn't.

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Originally posted by Stoic
Give it up man
Your argument is border-lining desperation,

I give up

Originally posted by Parmaniac
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Read WW Hulk and tell me all about how effective her bubbles would be against the Hulk, and take note that he wasn't even serious when he popped her bubble and nearly punched Reeds head into his @$$. If Sue tried to contain the Hulk and he hit her bubble hard enough she would pass out. The team of women that Rulk played with were more powerful than this team, or at the very least on par with it.

Originally posted by Stoic
Read WW Hulk and tell me all about how effective her bubbles would be against the Hulk, and take note that he wasn't even serious when he popped her bubble and nearly punched Reeds head into his @$$. If Sue tried to contain the Hulk and he hit her bubble hard enough she would pass out. The team of women that Rulk played with were more powerful than this team, or at the very least on par with it.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
I'm not talking about force fields... never was, she can turn herself and her team mates invisible plus she can turn hulks eyes invisible and blind him.
While Hulk is throwing punches into thin air Sersi matter manipulates his body.

Even with his ability to sense invisible beings and his ability to take out Crystal and Sue together with multiple earthquake assaults? The Hulk without being able to see the Fantasticar that Ben and Johnny were in grabbed a pole out of the cement, and threw it miles away and nearly destroyed the vessel. Matter manips his body? How does she get past his force field?

Hulk ain't making an earthquake unless Crystal wants him to. For all his strength Crystal can keep him floating over the ground with a combination of ground and air manipulation..

Originally posted by Bentley
Hulk ain't making an earthquake unless Crystal wants him to. For all his strength Crystal can keep him floating over the ground with a combination of ground and air manipulation..

For all of Crystals power she has the durability of a hot human women, nothing a thunder clap couldn't take care of. Are you willing to bet that the hulk's strength could overpower her elemental powers? A weaker hulk took on X-Factor whose powers are as diverse as these women and won.

Hulk loses

i see a band of feminazis standing victorious here.

Originally posted by Stoic
For all of Crystals power she has the durability of a hot human women, nothing a thunder clap couldn't take care of. Are you willing to bet that the hulk's strength could overpower her elemental powers? A weaker hulk took on X-Factor whose powers are as diverse as these women and won.

It all comes down to strategy imo. If Crystal lifts the Hulk from the ground he can only deal with them by thunderclapping, and I just don't see Hulk beating Sue and Sersi at the same time by sheer clapping, at least not easily.

But yeah, Hulk can overpower them too, lately he's just more impressive, and I was not really taking a side, just stating they can quickly block the earthquakes. Maybe even Sue and Sersi cannot put down the Hulk at all.

knowing what they are dealing with sue would blind hulk and raise shields.

Sersi would try to alter his molecules just enough to hurt him and weaken him..

Ms. Marvel would be siphoning energy to Hulk herself up..

Crystal would keep him off balance with the earth shaking and being malleable..

Sue would then create a Force field inside his body hurting hulk even more...

they just overpower him the way i see it more often then not.

Hulk would murder them.

Sue isn't an issue, as it is proved again, and again, and again.
So is Ms. Marvel

Crystal would be interesting, it would depend on how well Hulk can resist magic. But I would bet for the Hulk.

Sersi might be a problem, but recently, Hulk resisted power absortion by Rulk. So there's that.

At the end, I give it to the Hulk, for 2 reasons:
1- He can completly outthink them;
2- If Hulk play it safe, which it would, because it's Banner now in command, he would thunderclap the hell out of the group. This is the attack that stomped Rulk itself, so I don't see anyone on the field resisting that. MAYBE Sue with her shield, but at the end, it's just delying the inevitable.

Did you say Crystal uses magic?

g_serious

Originally posted by Stoic
Really, and how will she win without it? Is she capable of destroying the Hulks force field tech before he KO's her? Because the rest of these ladies are a one shot away from taking a nap.

Sersi uses the power cosmic to manipulate matter and as forcefields/blasts. If we go with her high end feats, she's shielded a localized area from the destruction of an entire UNIVERSE, and I mean that the entire universe was GONE with the only thing left existing being the matter she protected. She's also strong enough to one-shot Hercules, has intangibility, can rip open dimensions with her mind, and can't actually be defeated unless you disperse her molecules over a vast distance.

Keep in mind that her powers don't exactly make sense and are fairly complex. She can turn organic matter into inorganic matter and give such intricate properties to whatever she creates with her imagination that she doesn't really have to focus. She turned a cat into a dragon with a working fire exhalation mechanism SUBCONSCIOUSLY. Aside from that, the power cosmic lets her instantly transport matter through space-time anyway. The only thing Hulk has to stand up to her that I've seen in this thread so far would be resisting Rulk... but I don't know the circumstances or what Rulk can do.

In order for Hulk to get wins I need to see proof that answers the following questions.

1. How does he keep from being instantly BFRd?
2. How can he keep himself from being turned into a turtle?
3. How does he hurt someone who can fly quickly and has ranged attacks?
4. How does he bust her force fields and bypass intangibility?
5. How does he do any of this without her going ape-shit and going into "one-shotting Immortal Hercules'/ tk rocket mode"?

I got all your answers right here Konton: He thunderclaps, they all die.

But seriously, with plot device bannertech, bannersmarts and his current power level, he can take some wins, maybe even a majority.

Grey hulk's done alright against being turned into stone before, it might not be enough during a fight with so many of them, but his HF does reverse and counter the effects eventually. He can drop any of them from the sky with a thunderclap and break through IW's shields without that much trouble.

Not only did he resit the Rulk, he oneshot him with a TC. Hulk is getting his groove back on.

Originally posted by Konton
Sersi uses the power cosmic to manipulate matter and as forcefields/blasts. If we go with her high end feats, she's shielded a localized area from the destruction of an entire UNIVERSE, and I mean that the entire universe was GONE with the only thing left existing being the matter she protected. She's also strong enough to one-shot Hercules, has intangibility, can rip open dimensions with her mind, and can't actually be defeated unless you disperse her molecules over a vast distance.

Keep in mind that her powers don't exactly make sense and are fairly complex. She can turn organic matter into inorganic matter and give such intricate properties to whatever she creates with her imagination that she doesn't really have to focus. She turned a cat into a dragon with a working fire exhalation mechanism SUBCONSCIOUSLY. Aside from that, the power cosmic lets her instantly transport matter through space-time anyway. The only thing Hulk has to stand up to her that I've seen in this thread so far would be resisting Rulk... but I don't know the circumstances or what Rulk can do.

In order for Hulk to get wins I need to see proof that answers the following questions.

1. How does he keep from being instantly BFRd?
2. How can he keep himself from being turned into a turtle?
3. How does he hurt someone who can fly quickly and has ranged attacks?
4. How does he bust her force fields and bypass intangibility?
5. How does he do any of this without her going ape-shit and going into "one-shotting Immortal Hercules'/ tk rocket mode"?

And the Hulk can leap to the point of flying, and also possesses super human burst speeds. His reflex speed countered the Sentry's blitz head on, and he is much faster than Sersi in flight, and battle speed.

The Hulk has caught Ironman off guard, and he has counter measure protocols programmed into his armors CPU, that were able to counter Captain America, by analyzing his muscle twitch fibers, and foretell what his next move would be.

The Hulk has grabbed him and worked him over, he would do the same to Sersi. When did Sersi one shot Hercules? Was she in her normal state of mind, or was Thane Ector affecting her psyche? What was the full underlying story behind that?

1. The Hulk has been employing tech that would deny Sersi, and Sue's powers from directly affecting him. even if he didn't the Hulk has an uncanny ability to sense invisible creatures

2. Read number one, and add to it that the Hulk would not stand there and allow the women to take free shots at him. how certain are you that transmutation would work on the Hulks unique physiology?

3. The Hulk can leap to the point of flying, and since Sersi does not have Spider Senses, he has as big of a chance of tackling her in mid air as she has of blasting him (moving target theorem).

4. Hercules is not WW Hulk, and if he went World Breaker he would turn her out. Sersi can't beat Onslaught, Sersi can't beat non voided Sentry at the top of his game, Sersi doesn't have the strength to physically deny a planet from exploding, Sersi doesn't have the power to punch through a dimensional barrier that was reinforced by magic, Sersi can't physically destroy an asteroid twice the size of earth in one blow.

What were the underlying reasons that Sersi was able to one shot Hercules, please enlighten me, because from what I remember, she was suffering from some sort of madness.

Originally posted by Stoic
And the Hulk can leap to the point of flying, and also possesses super human burst speeds. His reflex speed countered the Sentry's blitz head on, and he is much faster than Sersi in flight, and battle speed.

The Hulk has caught Ironman off guard, and he has counter measure protocols programmed into his armors CPU, that were able to counter Captain America, by analyzing his muscle twitch fibers, and foretell what his next move would be.

The Hulk has grabbed him and worked him over, he would do the same to Sersi. When did Sersi one shot Hercules? Was she in her normal state of mind, or was Thane Ector affecting her psyche? What was the full underlying story behind that?

1. The Hulk has been employing tech that would deny Sersi, and Sue's powers from directly affecting him. even if he didn't the Hulk has an uncanny ability to sense invisible creatures

2. Read number one, and add to it that the Hulk would not stand there and allow the women to take free shots at him. how certain are you that transmutation would work on the Hulks unique physiology?

3. The Hulk can leap to the point of flying, and since Sersi does not have Spider Senses, he has as big of a chance of tackling her in mid air as she has of blasting him (moving target theorem).

4. Hercules is not WW Hulk, and if he went World Breaker he would turn her out. Sersi can't beat Onslaught, Sersi can't beat non voided Sentry at the top of his game, Sersi doesn't have the strength to physically deny a planet from exploding, Sersi doesn't have the power to punch through a dimensional barrier that was reinforced by magic, Sersi can't physically destroy an asteroid twice the size of earth in one blow.

What were the underlying reasons that Sersi was able to one shot Hercules, please enlighten us, because from what I remember, she was suffering from some sort of madness.

i dont recall Extremis Iron Man fighting hulk other then in the hulk buster armor and that was a huge piece of armor and comparable to a tractor. hulk keeping up with it is not the same as regular armor. hulk regularly gets out reacted by humans and superhumans he simply gets a lucky shot after a while of them dodging or a grab. hulk's reaction speed isnt comparable to the likes of Cap he is just big and hard to avoid after tiring or slipping it is always made clear.

1. what tech is hulk currently using when he goes green that would deny sersi?

hulk can only see spirits, astral projection not invincible beings using bend light or dimensionally phased being. hulk cannot see sue richards or anyone she turns invisible.

2. Sersi was pissed ye, by proctor meddling she wanted her boyfriend back and the Avengers tried to forcibly calm her down. she then did something energy attack back hand that ko'ed Hercules probably did something to his molecular structure.

3. hulk jumping at Sersi and hitting her is iffy maybe 50/50 but drastically reduces with the ladies in battle for distraction. you are forgetting Sersi is not fighting alone here.

4. this is not WWH so there is no point in bringing him up and Hulk strength lvl isnt that different from his past exploits only difference is splash art he hasnt gotten a dramatic upgrade where he will be taking on his fellow tier heroes easier then in the past. Hulk will still struggle with Thor and Herc will still get his licks in from time to time. current hulk cant do any of the stuff you mention no point bringing it up.

Proof, Thor pounded Rulk just as easily Hulk did. Hulk will get just as easily beaten by void as did thor and his team.. the teams inability to match Hulk physically is not there sole options.

i suggest you read more Sersi feats since you clearly unaware of her own insane high end feats...

Originally posted by King Castle
i dont recall Extremis Iron Man fighting hulk other then in the hulk buster armor and that was a huge piece of armor and comparable to a tractor. hulk keeping up with it is not the same as regular armor. hulk regularly gets out reacted by humans and superhumans he simply gets a lucky shot after a while of them dodging or a grab. hulk's reaction speed isnt comparable to the likes of Cap he is just big and hard to avoid after tiring or slipping it is always made clear.

1. what tech is hulk currently using when he goes green that would deny sersi?

hulk can only see spirits, astral projection not invincible beings using bend light or dimensionally phased being. hulk cannot see sue richards or anyone she turns invisible.

2. Sersi was pissed ye, by proctor meddling she wanted her boyfriend back and the Avengers tried to forcibly calm her down. she then did something energy attack back hand that ko'ed Hercules probably did something to his molecular structure.

3. hulk jumping at Sersi and hitting her is iffy maybe 50/50 but drastically reduces with the ladies in battle for distraction. you are forgetting Sersi is not fighting alone here.

4. this is not WWH so there is no point in bringing him up and Hulk strength lvl isnt that different from his past exploits only difference is splash art he hasnt gotten a dramatic upgrade where he will be taking on his fellow tier heroes easier then in the past. Hulk will still struggle with Thor and Herc will still get his licks in from time to time. current hulk cant do any of the stuff you mention no point bringing it up.

Proof, Thor pounded Rulk just as easily Hulk did. Hulk will get just as easily beaten by void as did thor and his team.. the teams inability to match Hulk physically is not there sole options.

i suggest you read more Sersi feats since you clearly unaware of her own insane high end feats...

Oh I see you changed the rules again, my stance is final. Bait thread.