The Heartless and Nobodies invade various universes

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Originally posted by CosmicComet
How does the Genie(s) from Aladdin actually compare to the power of the Gods? I know people often say that Genie Jafar is Disney's most powerful character but I doubt it.

The Hercules series about when he was a teen confirmed that Aladdin and him share the same verse. And when Jafar died he went to the Underworld.

They have reality warping hax, and can pretty much break the laws of Nature. So moving stars would be like breathing to them/
Genie Jafar and Genie are still saddled with a weakness though, their lamp.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Good thing Hercules is superior to Kratos then.

Disney Zeus is a man. He doesn't mind letting his son help. Besides, epic prophecy is serious shit to the greeks. Don't eff with it.

Not really. But if it's any consolation, Disney Hercules > GoW Hercules. GoW Hercules held up the Earth/Sky though.

Can't argue with this. Though he still got stopped by a coating of cooled magma created by the the Ice and Fire Titan iirc.

To be fair, the Genies are genuinely very overrated.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Only he can not only fly at supersonic-hypersonic speeds... He can literally become lightning and move in combat. 😐 When did Sora react to lightning? I do not recall.

Kratos was barely nicking Kratos' fingers with the Chains. 😐 The fact that someone as strong as Kratos with a god-made weapon had trouble cutting through his fingernails clues you in on how durable Cronos is.

Those were game feats.


Not seen that. In KH:FM, Xemnas shot lightning and he blocked it with the key. Any negativity from the scene can be countered with the fact that it was KH1 Sora whos at a crawling pace compared to KH2 Sora at the start. His durabilities just what Id be if you scale a person to that size, maybe a little more.

Enough to make him bleed and retract in pain :/ He could of got out of Cronos with the chains, may of taken a bit longer not just for the power but mainly length.
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Buildings in KH are solid blocks. Hurling the rock titan is a massive strength feat in KH, let alone all four in the movie. Doubt Herc is the strongest in KH but not too sure..

...yeah, if GoW's Gods of Olympus can be in this thread, I'd say Genie Jafar can be as well.

Originally posted by BloodRain
Not seen that. In KH:FM, Xemnas shot lightning and he blocked it with the key. Any negativity from the scene can be countered with the fact that it was KH1 Sora whos at a crawling pace compared to KH2 Sora at the start. His durabilities just what Id be if you scale a person to that size, maybe a little more.

Enough to make him bleed and retract in pain :/ He could of got out of Cronos with the chains, may of taken a bit longer not just for the power but mainly length.
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Buildings in KH are solid blocks. Hurling the rock titan is a massive strength feat in KH, let alone all four in the movie. Doubt Herc is the strongest in KH but not too sure..

Show me the lightning.

Yeah, because having your nails ripped out kind of really hurts. 😐 Why would you assume Cronos is only as durable as a human of that size? He was strong enough to carry an item nearly as large as he for thousands of years, so he is clearly stronger proportionally for a human, and Kratos was able to stop Cronos from crushing him. WHICH BY MY LOGIC MEANS HE IS MOAR DURABLE. Also, funny, you assume he could have gotten out with the Chains. Based on nothing. 😐

Solid blocks with what is clearly light. 😐 Do not remember him throwing the Rock Titan. Not that it even begins to approach Kratos. 😐 As for all four, no man, no. He was able to suck them all into a tornado, so they were not physically connected to him... And he was throwing wind. NOT QUANTIFIABLE.

Originally posted by CosmicComet

Kratos was even able to cut into Atlas' hands in CoO with just as much ease. A game where Kratos is far weaker. How durable is Atlas you ask? He was point blank in Persephone's death explosion, an explosion so powerful it destroyed the top section of Pillar of the World. A Pillar so durable that it can hold up the entire world. He tanked said explosion as if it was just air.

The blades can pretty much cut anything, except the Onyx crystal formations, which are obviously far harder than diamond when everything is considered.

Ahem...

Atlas and Cronos have comparable durability.

Like I said, the blades can cut through almost anything. Even being far weaker, he could still dig into Atlas' skin maybe 10 years before before GoW3

It wouldn't even be possible for a 1600 ft human to exist anyway, they would collapse from their own weight because their bones/muscles/skin/tendons wouldn't be strong enough.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Solid blocks with what is clearly light. 😐 Do not remember him throwing the Rock Titan. Not that it even begins to approach Kratos. 😐 As for all four, no man, no. He was able to suck them all into a tornado, so they were not physically connected to him... And he was throwing wind. NOT QUANTIFIABLE.

Those buildings are not made of light. 😬

Throwing the Rock Titan happened in KH. And now, thanks to rule 14, it's legit.

YouTube video

0:12 through 0:19.

Seen it before, even if that rock titan isn't all that big...How the hell does someone like that, who has nigh-total invulnerability outside of kryptonite barrels, lose to Sora?

Originally posted by CosmicComet
Seen it before, even if that rock titan isn't all that big...How the hell does someone like that, who has nigh-total invulnerability outside of kryptonite barrels, lose to Sora?

The plot. And Link's pillar wasn't all that big either, but look what happens when you math it.

I know very well, that pillar mathing has opened my eyes to a lot of things. What I mean is its nowhere near the sort of things Kratos deals with.

But at the same time, I have a hard time imagining Kratos being able to do what Herc just did.

...But then again. I could also imagine Kratos holding up the world for a short amount of time. He'd just struggle with it just as much as he struggles with all of his strength feats lol.

Whether flipping over a tree or resisting being crushed by muthaphucking Atlas. 😛

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Those buildings are not made of light. 😬

Throwing the Rock Titan happened in KH. And now, thanks to rule 14, it's legit.

YouTube video

0:12 through 0:19.

Okay okay. Light and darkness. 🙂

It was always legit.

Not that it matters. Not sure what you are trying to prove. 😐

Since it is not relevant to this thread, and does not prove he is stronger than Kratos... Especially since that is a different Herc than the Disney movie Herc. 😐

Also, Sora is, you know, a teensy bit faster than Hercules... By alot. 😐 Plus he has magical cutting blade of powah.

Sora's faster thousands of times, but he should be able to bash God-Herc over the head with the keyblade forever with no damage.

The gods in Hercules couldn't have their strings cut, they were that invulnerable.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Okay okay. Light and darkness. 🙂

It was always legit.

Not that it matters. Not sure what you are trying to prove. 😐

Since it is not relevant to this thread, and does not prove he is stronger than Kratos... Especially since that is a different Herc than the Disney movie Herc. 😐

Also, Sora is, you know, a teensy bit faster than Hercules... By alot. 😐 Plus he has magical cutting blade of powah.

Proof of Xemnas using light and darkness to make these buildings. Not to mention we see a building break with no release of light or darkness.

Nothing. Not sure where that feat came into play but whatever. Still, most impressive strength feat for Kratos? Now let's see if KH2 Hercules is stronger than Kratos.

Of course he is different. It's KH, nothing is canon.

Most impressive strength feat is either resisting being crushed by Atlas or Cronos. Atlas was holding up the world with 3 of his hands while trying to crush Kratos with his free hand. Cronos is close to Atlas' league and he tried to use even more force to crush Kratos and couldn't succeed either.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
Most impressive strength feat is either resisting being crushed by Atlas or Cronos. Atlas was holding up the world with 3 of his hands while trying to crush Kratos with his free hand. Cronos is close to Atlas' league and he tried to use even more force to crush Kratos and couldn't succeed either.

I'll accept that. But isn't Atlas supposed to hold up the sky, not the world? 0.o

And wait a minute, is holding the sky up quantifiable?

No Atlas is holding up the world not the sky. I can't tell if he's holding the entire planet, and the underworld is simply below him and Earth, or if he's holding up earth from the mantle up while the Underground/Tartarus is simply the center of the Earth.

In GoW he keeps the world and the Underworld separate by holding up the world.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
No Atlas is holding up the world not the sky. I can't tell if he's holding the entire planet, and the underworld is simply below him and Earth, or if he's holding up earth from the mantle up while the Underground/Tartarus is simply the center of the Earth.

Ah I see. That's a pretty nice feat all things considered. And quantifiable too.

The reason I wonder is because if he's holding up the entire planet, then Antarctica probably doesn't exist in the God of War world. 🙁

And then from that continue to wonder if the God of War world is an actual globe shape or not.

IMO the God of War world's model is something like this.