Thanos vs Team off shoot

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
I asked where it was stated so I could figure out whether it "theorized" before or during Thanos getting completely disintegrated on-panel. I have recovered enough to be 100%. <--- This is an inherently false statement? ... k. That illustrates to me the underpinnings of the logic you use. Your assertions are strangely making more sense to me now in a Bizarro-type way. Takes a while to adjust...

Also, thanks for providing zero evidence that whatever imaginary extra recovery Thanos would get would make a difference.

I don't need to prove that and haven't been trying to prove what would or wouldn't happen. This whole argument is about whether we can say that same blast would effect a physically,mentally and full durability thanos.. THAT is the argument. Nobody can say whether it would or wouldn't and I have never been trying to prove it would or wouldn't. WHAT I HAVE PROVEN is that you can't take what did happen to thanos and apply that to a full strength thanos and say it would work. The writer went out of his way to illustrate over and over again that Thanos wasn't at full power. Period. That is all that needs to be proved. It's just like you can't say... when a punch hits superman and he's ko'd but he was in a red sun or had just fought a 5 hour long battle or in a universe that had negative effects on him (hmmm sounds familiar huh?) we can't say that same punch would KO a full strength superman. PERIOD end of discussion. Just cause you want to change the rules for Thanos doesn't work. When characters are weak or not trying we say.. well we don't kow what would've happened if he wasn't weakened which is logically sound and true. The same applies here.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
I don't need to prove that and haven't been trying to prove what would or wouldn't happen.

Moving on to other posters, considering how far recovered from the blabbering, incoherent, couldn't-even-stand, got mentally-locked-down state Thanos was initially... to the point where he was assertive, coherent, running around fighting, virtually-tp-immune state Thanos was at the time he got disintegrated... I don't think it's likely there was much more recovery necessary, much less an amount necessary to make a difference with another anti-matter mine or an even bigger one.

Drax's utterly disintegrated him down to his bones. It's likely a repeat would do close to that or take out enough of Thanos ftw.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Ok. You've been talking past me this entire time. Likely talking past other people too.

nope.. nice try.. you and others were wrongly saying a anti matter bomb would do the trick and kill thanos. Once I corrected Lordofblunder so he said SHOULD.. you go it DID. Others were also saying this tactic would work.. Problem is and what I've proven is you can't take what did happen to a WEAKENED THANOS and say it would work to a Thanos at FULL STRENGTH. Just like we don't say a punch that KO'd supes in a red sun would KO supes not in a red sun. Could it.. sure.. would it.. nobody knows.. You and others were acting like this would work on a full strength Thanos when you can say nothing of the sort. Unless of course the OP said a weakened Thanos.. in which case.. cool.. HOwever, it didn't say that and we have a full powered Thanos in this fight NOT a weakened one. NIce try though ODG to switch it up in the end. You were wrong to say it would.. I called you on it.. game over.

^ Yes. And you've been wrongly talking past us about how we can never know for sure with certainty until something is published. Thanks, Captain Obvious. You were belaboring the obvious and arguing for the sake of arguing. We get it now.

Just because you don't want to add to the debate about whetehr it would work or not -- which inevitably involves how likely it is as opposed to how unlikely it is -- doesn't mean it shouldn't be discussed. You can take your absolutes to another thread if you don't like it.

And the anti-matter likely would work. Given what we know. You want to offer no evidence that extra recovery would matter enough to change the disastrous result we've already seen? Then you're not contributing, just trolling.

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I don't know why people think the anti matter shouldn't affect thanos.Anti matter cancels out matter.Thanos is made of matter.Logically anti-matter could do major damage to odin(in high enough "dosage"😉

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
1. Huh? What is speculation? Are you really this slow? You do know how people with total control over their molecure structure use that control right. You think their stomach kicks in and does the reforming or whatever needs doing? So answer this question... Does your mind play a big role in your ability to control your molecular structure? The answer, unless your blatantly lying will be yes your mind is used and important. Once we get that answer out of you.. you already admitted the universe made it difficult for him mentally.. Thus there is ZERO speculation involved. We know Thanos was at full power mentally and that is all I need to prove for this thread. Something effecting a mentally weak thanos ISN'T applicable to a full powered Thanos. Period. No. 1 you lost convincingly

God, you're pathetic.

1. Thanos baseline passive durabilty, which is what you initially claimed was diminished, was never mentioned in the story, at all. Only his state of mind was initially affected and he had already recovered.

2. The idea that molecular control over oneself allows one to counter desintegration by contact with anti-matter at all is speculation. The power to rearrange oneself's molecular structure, essentially breaking up and creating chemical bonds, isn't the same as preventing collapse when in contact with anti-matter.
Even if it were, there is no reason to assume Thanos's particular level of control over his molecular structure could ever negate desintegration through contact with anti-matter on the level that weapon delivered, which it clearly can't as the weapon destroyed him.

2. You truly are slow aren't you... The reason (stated on panel) that they were able to control him before was because he wasn't at full power. You already admitted this. Then right before the blast they try and control him again and say... "He's regained TOO MUCH power, we can't control him anymore" Now English is your first language right? Does that line mean... he IS at full power.. nope try again.. It said he's regained too much power. The burden is on you to show that he was at full power. We have a basic english sentence that a 10 year old could comprehend. The onus is on you.. PROVE he was at full power. We have NO LINES or NARRATION or ANYTHING stating he was at full power. Right before the blast they note... he's regained not much power NOT he's at full power we can't control him.. nope REGAINED TOO MUCH POWER. So.. being that this line says the opposite of what you're claiming.. please provide ANY narration stating that he was at full power. Until then.. we can say he regained 25%, 50%, 75% or even 99%.. we don't know.. but what we do know is that it wasn't a 100%. You lose no. 2... not looking good son. [quote]

pffftwaahahahaha

1. This line means what it says: that he was too strong for them to contain. It does not imply that he was below any previous state at all. There is no mention of such a state or of a ceiling of power for him yet to reach. You have no grasp of semantycs, just wishfull interpretation of a sentence.

2.Onus of evidence is on the one making claims that extrapolate by far the actual words in the comic.

Thanos shows no outward sign of weakness, no fainting, no shaking his voice, his thoughts and actions are clear. He was clearly recovered and there is no proof of a power gap between his condition then and before he went into the fault or before he died.

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3. Since you're calling me a liar and saying this was never said.. do you wanna place a wager on that? If I'm right.. you can't show up on this site for lets say... 2 weeks.. if I'm wrong.. I won't show up for 2 weeks? Seem fair? For someone to claim I'm a liar and clearly haven't even read the comics is astounding. Thus simply posting it won't due. So you're dying that it was theorized that Thanos durability didn't seem up to par since his resurrection? Just want to make sure.... Suffice to say.. you lose no. 3 royally and are made to look like a chump. Just how big a chump will be up to you if you take the bet...

When thanos was ressurected, he came back with a level of invunerabilty that he clearly didn't have before death, as I've said before and you ignored. Gamorra is the first to recognize he was immune to death and made indestructible after his skin shatters the Godslayer. After the Cosmic cube blast KOs him and destroys his telepathic shields he woke up weaker and under their control. He was obviously weakened by the CC blast, which I've also said and you ignored. By the time drax fries him, he was already recovered which is indicated by their inability to lock him down with TP again like they did after the CC blast.

The claim that pre-death classic thanos would be able to tank that weapon is baseless because: he shows no weakness and nothing indicates such weakness; no other such weapon was used against him and the only that was, worked; his control over his own molecules dos not allow one to conclude he could tank it.

As for your bet? You reach new levels of sadness with each post.

All in all, what is clear beyond a shadow of a doubt and undisputable is that Thanos WASN'T at full power when the blast occured. Not only mentally weak but physically weak as well. What is worse.. the writer even made it more clear this isn't applicable to a 616 full powered Thanos by noting that his durabiilty didn't seem up to par. I don't understand why people try and talk about comics they haven't read and then call me a liar. I'm will be awaiting your response. [/B]

Your argument is a begging the question fallacy: Thanos was destroyed because he was weaker, he was weaker because the weapon destroyed him.

Your arrogance is inversely proportional to your comics reading comprehension. Like all fanboys, you just read what you wish was true.

the bootomline is there i no proog that he was still weakened, you're lingering in an illogic extrapolation of a comment by mantis.

So instead of Bb making anti matter....how about Thanos grabs him and disintegrates him like he did it to Drax?

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Yes he did.Name one reason why thanos wouldn't want odin dead?If odin wanted thanos dead then thanos wanted odin dead.

And yes they could.

Marvell oneshotted the Magus. Do you know who that is ?

Just out of curiousity how many times has BB made AM?

he mades it all the time in his appartment

Pimp Hand >> Antimatter
Thanos got this one in the bag.

Originally posted by 753
God, you're pathetic.

1. Thanos baseline passive durabilty, which is what you initially claimed was diminished, was never mentioned in the story, at all. Only his state of mind was initially affected and he had already recovered.

2. The idea that molecular control over oneself allows one to counter desintegration by contact with anti-matter at all is speculation. The power to rearrange oneself's molecular structure, essentially breaking up and creating chemical bonds, isn't the same as preventing collapse when in contact with anti-matter.
Even if it were, there is no reason to assume Thanos's particular level of control over his molecular structure could ever negate desintegration through contact with anti-matter on the level that weapon delivered, which it clearly can't as the weapon destroyed him.

haha I have all of them in my hd now and read through them before posting the first time.

When thanos was ressurected, he came back with a level of invunerabilty that he clearly didn't have before death, as I've said before and you ignored. Gamorra is the first to recognize he was immune to death and made indestructible after his skin shatters the Godslayer. After the Cosmic cube blast KOs him and destroys his telepathic shields he woke up weaker and under their control. He was obviously weakened by the CC blast, which I've also said and you ignored. By the time drax fries him, he was already recovered which is indicated by their inability to lock him down with TP again like they did after the CC blast.

The claim that pre-death classic thanos would be able to tank that weapon is baseless because: he shows no weakness and nothing indicates such weakness; no other such weapon was used against him and the only that was, worked; his control over his own molecules dos not allow one to conclude he could tank it.

As for your bet? You reach new levels of sadness with each post.

Your argument is a begging the question fallacy: Thanos was destroyed because he was weaker, he was weaker because the weapon destroyed him.

Your arrogance is inversely proportional to your comics reading comprehension. Like all fanboys, you just read what you wish was true.

the bootomline is there i no proog that he was still weakened, you're lingering in an illogic extrapolation of a comment by mantis.

You read them and still didn't see the line where I believe it was R.R. theorized that Thanos durability appeared weaker than usual. You have all the comics in front of you and you happen to not see that little narration? Makes me think you don't have the comics at all or just plain lying. It's there and you lying doesn't change that fact.

You basic reading comprehension skills are less than a 5th grader. Understand this, IT NEVER ONCE SAID.. THANOS WAS !00% or he regained ALL his power.. or his was back at full strength.. NONE of those lines were used. What was said... Thanos had regained too much power to control anymore... Where on God's Green earth you take that to mean he's at full strength now is beyond me. A 5th grader has better reading comprehension than that. Even ODG concedes he wasn't at a 100% but says there is no indication that even at a 100% it would've made a difference. That is an okay argument because it's factual true. However, to say he was at 100% already makes it clear either you're plain lying or you lack basic english language skills.

Originally posted by iceman24567
Thanos wins

Originally posted by Black bolt z
How?Eros tells him to hold still,marakkai blitzs him for the stun then BB runs up to him,and talks which should do a some damage or at least send him flying for the BFR.Sersi could also do some damage..

Kurupt, this is the 3rd thread I've had to address due to, in part, your posts.

753, stop with the trolling.

Originally posted by Badabing
Kurupt, this is the 3rd thread I've had to address due to, in part, your posts.

753, stop with the trolling.

my apologies bada

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos wasn't there to fight Odin. He was there to save Thor. There's nothing in it for Thanos to kill Odin.

Marvell oneshotted the Magus. Do you know who that is ?

Yes.Magus is the guy that one shotted surfer.But there are like 10 heralds here.They gang up on thanos.

Originally posted by Nihilist
Joke post i guess.

Originally posted by Black bolt z

Somewhat.Made up scenario but team still wins.

Why dont you tell me what they have to offer that will take Thanos down, as ive said before simply stacking people not strong enough to do the job doesnt work.

did anyone bring up the unimind?

could they do it?

Originally posted by Black bolt z
It seemed like thanos was putting everything he had.He was trying to kill him.And even if he wasn't he was trying to knock him unconcious which would involve the same amount of force.

Yes.Magus is the guy that one shotted surfer.But there are like 10 heralds here.They gang up on thanos.

Somewhat.Made up scenario but team still wins.

putting everything he had.... please show me any words or narration that leads u to believe this...that defies logic... u dont KO someone ur seeking help from... next he wasnt even using shielding or anything... for Gods sake he decided to walk right through a concentrated gungnir blast.. when there was no need to do so... it seemed clear this was a pissing contest that odin got the better of.. lets also not forget that thanos blast werent as powerful as we have seen before.. which makes sense since u dont mess up the person u need help from to solve a bigger problem...